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Director General of UK Border Force

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sundowngirl Sat 16-Aug-25 12:38:09

A very impressive and knowledgeable response by the Director General of the UK Border force.
Kier Starmer and Yvette Cooper should listen to his proposals
www.youtube.com/watch?v=54_CoLxvcaY

Bridie22 Sat 16-Aug-25 12:53:47

Wow, a man with common sense, maybe somebody will listen to him??

Sarnia Sun 17-Aug-25 12:06:47

Sadly, he is just the man Starmer and Cooper will not listen to.

growstuff Sun 17-Aug-25 12:20:41

Sarnia

Sadly, he is just the man Starmer and Cooper will not listen to.

Who is this man? I've looked up the current and last Director General of Border Force and he isn't either of them.

petra Sun 17-Aug-25 12:34:47

sundowngirl

A very impressive and knowledgeable response by the Director General of the UK Border force.
Kier Starmer and Yvette Cooper should listen to his proposals
www.youtube.com/watch?v=54_CoLxvcaY

He’s not the director general of the border force. If you listen carefully you will hear that he’s talking about the post in the third person.

growstuff Sun 17-Aug-25 12:39:59

I did listen carefully - that's why I queried the OP.

I found out who he is. His name is David Coleman. He describes himself as "Emeritus professor of demography at the University of Oxford. Retired for over 10 years."

Hmm ... not sure how much first hand experience of Border Force he has.

Moreover, this video is of a committee meeting which took place on 27 February 2025. Quite a lot has been said and done since then.

www.theyworkforyou.com/pbc/2024-25/Border_Security%2C_Asylum_and_Immigration_Bill/02-0_2025-02-27a.49.3?s=%27asylum+matters%27

growstuff Sun 17-Aug-25 12:51:53

According to Wiki:

"He is also an advisor to Migration Watch UK which he helped to found, and is a member of the Galton Institute, formerly known as the Eugenics Society, however the institute at the time did not do "research into eugenics".

In 2013, Coleman's analysis said that White British people would be a minority in the UK around 2066 if current immigration trends continued."

I wouldn't expect somebody with a CV like that to be impartial.

growstuff Sun 17-Aug-25 12:53:36

Considering that these committees have loads of meetings and call tens or hundreds of witnesses with different views, I wonder why the person on YouTube cherry picked this particular one hmm.

Bridie22 Sun 17-Aug-25 16:46:35

Maybe because it is relevant to current problems growstuff, and this guy gave a lot of sensible solutions.

growstuff Sun 17-Aug-25 16:52:07

Bridie22

Maybe because it is relevant to current problems growstuff, and this guy gave a lot of sensible solutions.

He gave a lot of biased solutions, which he hadn't researched properly. This showed when he was asked to justify himself.

His expertise isn't in migration - it's in demographics, especially scare-mongering about the decline in fertility amongst so-called indigenous Europeans.

It would be interesting to see/hear video of the other witnesses who spoke to the committee, who no doubt have other opinions/solutions.

Oreo Sun 17-Aug-25 16:54:44

It isn’t scaremongering it’s a fact.

growstuff Sun 17-Aug-25 16:59:39

Oreo

It isn’t scaremongering it’s a fact.

Even if it is a fact, why should people be scared? We don't live in a time warp and populations have moved around the world since the beginning of time. Only Great Replacement Theory myth propagators are scared.

Since discovering who the man is (not the Director General of Border Force), I've read a few of his publications. He has strong opinions about ethnicity and a definite agenda. I accept that some people support those ideas, but objective and neutral he is not.

Galaxy Sun 17-Aug-25 17:01:44

But hardly anyone on this subject is neutral. I don't mind hearing a range of views even if I don't agree with them.

Primrose53 Sun 17-Aug-25 17:01:50

I have just been reading a very interesting article by Anne Widdecombe regarding illegal immigration reminding us how she predicted this many years ago.

growstuff Sun 17-Aug-25 17:13:24

Galaxy

But hardly anyone on this subject is neutral. I don't mind hearing a range of views even if I don't agree with them.

I don't mind either, but I want to hear a range - not just one retired academic with entrenched views.

Bridie22 Sun 17-Aug-25 18:30:03

But he expressed a range of views that need consideration surely, I personally thought he answered questions knowledgeably.

growstuff Sun 17-Aug-25 18:38:11

Bridie22

But he expressed a range of views that need consideration surely, I personally thought he answered questions knowledgeably.

No, he didn't express a range of views. He expressed one-sided views, which need to be considered alongside other views - especially from people with hands on experience. Sorry, but I don't think he spoke as though he had any first-hand experience (not surprisingly because he hasn't).