Setting a precedent?

Yes stripeygran..but when asked last week, on a match, would those that supported irregular people coming across could they house those people, everyone had an excuse, or just said plain no 😳

Mt61

That’s it, we haven’t got the infrastructure to cope with the amount of people coming across. Why don’t they settle in France, much bigger than our country. Why do they want to risk theirs lives?

Lilli4

That’s it, we haven’t got the infrastructure to cope with the amount of people coming across. Why don’t they settle in France, much bigger than our country. Why do they want to risk theirs lives?

Mt61

PoliticsNerd

People most likely to use "do-gooder" are those who want to diminish or undermine the moral efforts of others.

On GN it's a perjorative word people use because, although it's inflammatory, they think GN will ignore it. Most people leave name calling in the playground. A few never grow out if it.

Saying someone is a ‘do-gooder’ isn’t being inflammatory- some people do good, some people don’t.

Would you regard a do gooder in a positive light?

Thanks

I prefer moral grandstanding as a term.
Stand up above the parapet and be counted but expect to get your head blown off!

PoliticsNerd

People most likely to use "do-gooder" are those who want to diminish or undermine the moral efforts of others.

On GN it's a perjorative word people use because, although it's inflammatory, they think GN will ignore it. Most people leave name calling in the playground. A few never grow out if it.

Saying someone is a ‘do-gooder’ isn’t being inflammatory- some people do good, some people don’t.

It needs periods of light, warmth, and of course, water but not necessarily soil.

petra

^and how they are managing to smoke weed all day on £49 a week is surprising^
Maybe it’s a perk of the job 😉

Perhaps they're growing it? It thrives in a cupboard, I'm told.

This report is from 2022 but have things changed?
Not all people arriving on small boats are fleeing persecution, famine and war.

Albanian drug gangs are using the migrant camps of northern France as a recruitment ground, offering to pay the passage of those prepared to work in the UK drugs industry on arrival, the BBC has been told.

Albanians account for around a third of the almost 40,000 people who have arrived in small boats so far this year, according to UK government figures.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63488070

and how they are managing to smoke weed all day on £49 a week is surprising
Maybe it’s a perk of the job 😉

No one should be expected to tolerate drug-taking, drunken- ness, loud music and persistent mess, from any social group.

Who you think is "right" depends on how much is true and how much is entitled reaction to change. Somehow, if we wish to survive, we have to learn how to live alongside one another.

Well said Maizie. You just have to think of those living near universities. Different cultures exist throughout society.

Does not make it right, though.
Student lets are feared by local residents because of the deterioration of property (landlords) and poor behaviour (students).

Well said Maizie. You just have to think of those living near universities. Different cultures exist throughout society.

People most likely to use "do-gooder" are those who want to diminish or undermine the moral efforts of others.

On GN it's a perjorative word people use because, although it's inflammatory, they think GN will ignore it. Most people leave name calling in the playground. A few never grow out if it.

Primrose53

Mt61

We already have them living quite near us Casdon. Police are never away from the place. We have to put up & shut up to appease the do-gooders.

There was a lengthy post on our regional newspaper page from a 50 year old man who has lived in a social housing flat for 20 years very happily.

He says the last 18 months have been hell since asylum seekers were housed in his block. He says they smoke weed all day both inside and outside and since the weather has been hot the stink comes into his flat. They don’t speak English so don’t mix at all. They don’t work and just hang around smoking and playing loud music. They have lots of visitors from their own culture so there is shouting, door slamming, even louder music etc.

Sounds like the behaviour of a group of young men from any culture. I’ve heard similar complaints about all kinds of people over the decades.

And how they manage to smoke weed all day on £49 a week is surprising…

What is a do gooder please? Nobody seems to be able to tell me.
No idea, but as long as I'm not a badder, that's OK.

What is a do gooder please? Nobody seems to be able to tell me.

Surely most people with a shred of humanity move through this troubled world trying to do a tiny bit of good here and there.

Allira

Yes, we've cried tears over Ethiopia, my mother told us about starving children in Africa and India when I was a child and we raised money at Sunday school even then.

Nothing changes.

I've supported Syrian refugees and no, do not level accusations of racism at me, please, as you have no idea who I am.
Thanks.

I remember sitting with my kids watching Geldof and co appealing for money for the starving kids. We were all crying and I donated more money than I could afford. About a week’s housekeeping, so we had a very lean week thereafter.

Nothing much has changed though.

Mt61

We already have them living quite near us Casdon. Police are never away from the place. We have to put up & shut up to appease the do-gooders.

There was a lengthy post on our regional newspaper page from a 50 year old man who has lived in a social housing flat for 20 years very happily.

He says the last 18 months have been hell since asylum seekers were housed in his block. He says they smoke weed all day both inside and outside and since the weather has been hot the stink comes into his flat. They don’t speak English so don’t mix at all. They don’t work and just hang around smoking and playing loud music. They have lots of visitors from their own culture so there is shouting, door slamming, even louder music etc.

70+ years of helping and where are we now?

PoliticsNerd

Allira

I could imagine my sons leaving a war torn country for a better life.

How insulting is that to the memory of all those brave young men (and women) who fought for our freedom in WW2, some leaving behind widows and young children. My father came back, my father-in-law did not.

They did not run away to Canada, Australia or wherever and leave the women and children to fend for themselves. Those who could not join the Forces did their bit in other ways too.

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The people looking for asylum are looking to escape being attacked by their own country not another one Allira.

Oh dearie me, how come I never realised that ......

Allira

^I could imagine my sons leaving a war torn country for a better life.^

How insulting is that to the memory of all those brave young men (and women) who fought for our freedom in WW2, some leaving behind widows and young children. My father came back, my father-in-law did not.

They did not run away to Canada, Australia or wherever and leave the women and children to fend for themselves. Those who could not join the Forces did their bit in other ways too.

🤬

The people looking for asylum are looking to escape being attacked by their own country not another one Allira.

Allira

Oh dear.

Yes, you touched a nerve too.
You are only free because of those brave young men who gave their lives for you but I expect you're too young to know or even care.

They were fighting fascism, I'm not sure they'd be proud of the mobs threatening to burn hotels.

Yes, we've cried tears over Ethiopia, my mother told us about starving children in Africa and India when I was a child and we raised money at Sunday school even then.

Nothing changes.

I've supported Syrian refugees and no, do not level accusations of racism at me, please, as you have no idea who I am.
Thanks.