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Reform UK refuses to engage with Nottinghamshire Post/Live

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growstuff Thu 28-Aug-25 09:50:18

www.societyofeditors.org/soe_news/society-criticises-reform-uk-council-leaders-ban-on-nottinghamshire-live/

Is the this a sign of the future?

I thought Reform supported free speech. Does that mean that only speech they like is free?

growstuff Fri 29-Aug-25 05:34:49

Allsorts

Must admit I've given up listening to anything they say,

Councillors or the media?

Allsorts Thu 28-Aug-25 22:47:38

Must admit I've given up listening to anything they say,

growstuff Thu 28-Aug-25 22:36:55

Casdon

They can’t be banned from speaking to the press, but I’d guess that as Reform has the majority and runs the cabinet, they won’t be party to proposals until they go to full council?

If the opposition councillors have any sense, they'll be doing quite a lot of talking to the local press.

Casdon Thu 28-Aug-25 21:46:05

They can’t be banned from speaking to the press, but I’d guess that as Reform has the majority and runs the cabinet, they won’t be party to proposals until they go to full council?

winterwhite Thu 28-Aug-25 21:18:09

There must be opposition cllrs on Notts CC. Where are they? They can’t be denied access to decision making or prevented from talking to the press.

Jane43 Thu 28-Aug-25 20:26:13

Galaxy

He doesn't like reform I don't think, didn't he have some sort of fight with farage.

Musk is now supporting Ben Habib’s party on X -Advance UK I think it is called.

growstuff Thu 28-Aug-25 20:16:32

As far as I know, Nottinghamshire is undergoing the same sort of reorganisation as Essex.

The idea in Nottinghamshire is to abolish the nine district councils and have two larger unitary authorities, which eliminate the overlap and wastage with county and district councils.

In Essex, we're going to have three unitary authorities, but the controversy is whether the county gets divided into horizontal or vertical bands. I'm in north west Essex - it matters to my council because we could end up in north Essex, which is mainly rural, but probably centred on Colchester or we could end up in west Essex, which is more urban and would be centred on Harlow. We don't feel a great affinity with either group. We also have an independent council, which would lose its majority and be absorbed into a bigger grouping.

My guess is that the same kind of situation exists in Nottinghamshire. The city of Nottingham is very different from the surrounding rural villages. I think it's crucial that local people have a voice and that the council uses the media to inform and consult with people. On the face of it, it appears that Reform doesn't want to be held to account.

imaround Thu 28-Aug-25 20:13:38

"Is the this a sign of the future?"

Welcome to the US circa 2015. Want to see how it ends? Read my post history.

MollyNew Thu 28-Aug-25 20:01:52

Nottinghamshire Council leader wishing to reorganise the boroughs of the council - a smaller version of The Donald wanting to incorporate Canada into the USA grin

Got to start somewhere, I suppose. He'll be invading Derbyshire next week.

Casdon Thu 28-Aug-25 19:50:57

growstuff

Casdon

Maybe a maverick Reform Council leader, or maybe a local news editor who is putting a slant on reporting - or both those factors?

I'm not sure, but I think the Nottingham Post reported that a couple of Reform councillors weren't happy about the reorganisation which the Reform leader is planning.

I found this on ITV News:

The reason why the ban came into place was because of an article written by journalist Oliver Pridmore.

It was claimed in the piece that two Reform county councillors would be suspended from their county council group if they did not vote for Council Leader Mick Barton's preference of a bigger Nottingham covering Broxtowe and Gedling.

Speaking to ITV Central he said he was bewildered by the ban.
He said: "Speechless when I first heard. We're not on any war against Reform at NottinghamshireLive in the slightest.

"We've just provided challenging, fair, scrutinising coverage to the party now in charge of the largest local authority in our area.

"A free press scrutinising parties in charge of councils like this is important, whatever your political beliefs."’

It sounds like the Council leader has a wish to reorganise the boroughs of the council which is controversial, and didn’t want the public to know about it?

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 28-Aug-25 19:23:03

Mr Trump would be proud.

growstuff Thu 28-Aug-25 17:05:37

Casdon

Maybe a maverick Reform Council leader, or maybe a local news editor who is putting a slant on reporting - or both those factors?

I'm not sure, but I think the Nottingham Post reported that a couple of Reform councillors weren't happy about the reorganisation which the Reform leader is planning.

growstuff Thu 28-Aug-25 17:03:51

Allira

Reach plc.
They own, amongst other publications, the Daily Mirror and the Daily Express so might be thought to be non-partisan!!

No Political Alignment:
Unlike a political party, a news outlet like Nottinghamshire Live doesn't have a formal political ideology or stance.

How odd.

Yes, it was formerly Trinity Mirror and owns loads of local papers, including the Liverpool Echo and Manchester Evening News.

It probably wasn't a good idea to make an enemy of them.

Casdon Thu 28-Aug-25 15:29:40

Maybe a maverick Reform Council leader, or maybe a local news editor who is putting a slant on reporting - or both those factors?

MayBee70 Thu 28-Aug-25 15:28:44

LizzieDrip

Whitewavemark2

The BBC are complicit in my view. Farage is never off the news.

Agreed WW.

Or Trump. One or other of them. Every time I turn the tv on. I, too heard what Farage said. But the man can happily say that black is white without turning a hair and say the opposite the next day and constantly gets away with it. The media rarely question him. I believe that Victoria Derbyshire confronted Tice the other day but she’s a one off. I think all news items should be fact checked in the post truth world that we now live in.

Allira Thu 28-Aug-25 15:26:56

Reach plc.
They own, amongst other publications, the Daily Mirror and the Daily Express so might be thought to be non-partisan!!

No Political Alignment:
Unlike a political party, a news outlet like Nottinghamshire Live doesn't have a formal political ideology or stance.

How odd.

Allira Thu 28-Aug-25 15:20:40

growstuff

Galaxy

But again the time to speak about this was some time ago.

That's a bit doom and gloom! It's never too late.

How are the residents of Nottinghamshire going to find out what fantastic work Reform is doing in the community? grinhmm

😁

Who owns these 'Live' online news outlets? Presumably they are all linked?

Yes, ok, I will Google 😀

Casdon Thu 28-Aug-25 14:44:58

Galaxy

He doesn't like reform I don't think, didn't he have some sort of fight with farage.

He doesn’t like Farage, at least not as the leader - I haven’t heard him say he doesn’t like Reform though. He bangs on about his version of freedom of speech and likes putting his oar into UK politics though, that’s why I wondered if he would have anything to say - I think in his head people are wanting him to steer us.

Babs03 Thu 28-Aug-25 14:30:49

There are those who promote freedom of speech because they want to spout hate speech or just say something really unpleasant about people they feel ‘don’t belong’. That isn’t freedom of speech is freedom to cause offence or incite violence.
And usually those who shout loudest about freedom of speech are enjoying that freedom all the time but just don’t like people reacting negatively towards their opinions.
In actual fact true freedom of speech doesn’t exist because we live in a society where we follow a tacit rule to never just say what is on our minds because it could be seen as rude and hurt other people’s feelings. Is called having a filter.

Galaxy Thu 28-Aug-25 14:20:34

He doesn't like reform I don't think, didn't he have some sort of fight with farage.

Casdon Thu 28-Aug-25 13:56:35

I wonder if Elon Musk will have anything to say about it.

Galaxy Thu 28-Aug-25 13:50:42

I think there are very few ambassadors for free speech, reform aren't one of them.

Casdon Thu 28-Aug-25 13:49:10

Galaxy

Almost as if we should have been careful about freedom of speech a long time ago. The naivety that it was always going to be those in power who you liked who were controlling speech. Oops.

I’ve just been reading about what has happened in Nottingham, and I’m struggling to square the decision with Reform’s public stance on freedom of speech. You’re talking about UK governments, not about Reform as an ambassador for free speech. It doesn’t make sense for them to do this in light of that, surely?

LizzieDrip Thu 28-Aug-25 10:48:15

Galaxy

It isn't allowing the palestine action protests at the moment is it?
Now I may have views on those protests, but I think I am becoming more uncomfortable with what happened there, and I on the whole think they are fools.
I also didn't want Ricky Jones imprisoned even though I loathe him.

I also think the government was wrong to proscribe Palestine Action. Those activists who vandalised the planes should have been arrested and dealt with appropriately by the courts, commensurate with their actions.

LizzieDrip Thu 28-Aug-25 10:41:31

Whitewavemark2

The BBC are complicit in my view. Farage is never off the news.

Agreed WW.