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Britain without the ECHR

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Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 15:35:36

Farage and Co voted in Parliament against improving the status of workers on zero contracts. So, not a man of the zero contracts people.

foxie48 Mon 08-Sept-25 19:25:00

I'm very against us leaving the ECHR, it is a dangerous and totally unnecessary step. If we have issues with people abusing the rights enshrined in it's law we should negotiate with other countries to make it more "fit for purpose". If we have issues with abuse so do other countries.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-Sept-25 09:00:59

The second Human Right - another absolute is

The right to be free from torture, degrading or inhumane acts.

Don’t be fooled into thinking that our civilised government would never partake of such acts.

The U.K. has frequently been implicated in facilitating and aiding CIA torture carried out by the USA on U.K. citizens.

Young female U.K. teenagers being stripped searched by British police, for no apparent reason were protected under the law that prevent such degrading acts being carried out.

Iam64 Sun 07-Sept-25 08:51:11

It’s wearying, the constant attempts to suggest human rights are ‘woke’ nonsense

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-Sept-25 08:46:02

The first law we don’t need is what is considered to be an absolute right.

The right to life -

what it actually means is that every single one of us has an absolute right to life - no ifs ands or buts. Who is it protecting us from? Well, authoritarian people like Putin or Xi who can with impunity kill people like political opponents or someone simply because they have the temerity to criticise their actions. Or look at South America and the murders, carried out there by the governments whim. No ECHR protection for those people - who needs it anyway?

So what this law does in practice is protect the population from governments who as we saw in the 1930s, and as we are seeing in many areas of the world now, will commit horrendous acts of violence/murder against minorities in particular and individuals at a whim.

Governments are not benign they always have a tendency to use the law to its maximum or indeed operate outside of the law, unless they are kept in check by agreed rules such as the EHCR.

That was the lesson learned by our parents and trying to be undermined by Farage.

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 07-Sept-25 08:42:12

Human rights - totally unnecessary " woke" nonsense, obviously. I mean, the USA is enjoying life without them, so we'll be fine, won't we?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-Sept-25 08:13:43

So Farage is proposing (again) to get rid of the ECHR in order that (he says) he is then able (as Prime Minister) to expel who we like from our country.

I mean - what can go wrong?

Who wants any rights anyway. Who needs protection, certainly not us in the U.K.!