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Emily Thornberry

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StripeyGran Tue 09-Sept-25 20:07:10

I like the cut of her jib.

Any thoughts?

Rosie51 Tue 09-Sept-25 23:16:37

MaizieD

TerriBull

Islington based, far too London centric everyone will remember her for "I've never seen anything like it" comment when confronted with house bedecked with Union Jacks.

That's not what she said in the tweet she was condemned for.

It just said 'Image from Rochester' over a picture of a white van in front of a house draped with 2 St George's crosses.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30142579

You're either thinking of something else or making it up.

In the link you provide, further down she is quoted as having told the Daily Mail "It had three huge flags covering the whole house. I've never seen anything like it before. I've never seen a house completely covered in flags" She could have looked closer at the photo she posted because those flags simply don't cover the whole house at all. An attempt at damage limitation after a snobbish post.
I can't see where Terribull has said the comments were part of the tweet, and she clearly isn't making it up.

henetha Tue 09-Sept-25 23:18:30

Haven't seen much of her lately but always thought she talks too much and too forcefully: a bit naggy really.

windmill1 Wed 10-Sept-25 04:38:41

The choice appears to be a second-rate bunch conjured up from a shambolic second-rate party. And all steered into unknown waters by a very vague Captain Flip-Flop.

MayBee70 Wed 10-Sept-25 07:31:07

windmill1

The choice appears to be a second-rate bunch conjured up from a shambolic second-rate party. And all steered into unknown waters by a very vague Captain Flip-Flop.

So who would you like to have governing this country?

MaizieD Wed 10-Sept-25 07:52:07

Rosie51

MaizieD

TerriBull

Islington based, far too London centric everyone will remember her for "I've never seen anything like it" comment when confronted with house bedecked with Union Jacks.

That's not what she said in the tweet she was condemned for.

It just said 'Image from Rochester' over a picture of a white van in front of a house draped with 2 St George's crosses.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30142579

You're either thinking of something else or making it up.

In the link you provide, further down she is quoted as having told the Daily Mail "It had three huge flags covering the whole house. I've never seen anything like it before. I've never seen a house completely covered in flags" She could have looked closer at the photo she posted because those flags simply don't cover the whole house at all. An attempt at damage limitation after a snobbish post.
I can't see where Terribull has said the comments were part of the tweet, and she clearly isn't making it up.

Aaah. Thanks for the elaboration.

I didn’t read the whole article and, at the time, I understood that it was just the tweet that did it…

Mind you, I don’t see anything wrong about expressing surprise at seeing a house front almost totally covered with St George's crosses (not Union Jacks) It wasn’t a common sight at the time. But people will read into politicians’ words and actions whatever suits their own agendas.

Allsorts Wed 10-Sept-25 07:57:45

I do think Labour in general has had assertive training, not letting anyone getting a word in and talking over interviewer until they have made their point, it's a technique to use us for allotted ait time to make their point on one issue. I don't listen to them anymore, they are empty vessels.

TerriBull Wed 10-Sept-25 07:58:50

Yes it was St George flags, my memory wasn't exact. Her wording, possibly open to several interpretations did cause a furore at the time, but thank you for the clarification Rosie.

MaizieD Wed 10-Sept-25 08:10:44

Allsorts

I do think Labour in general has had assertive training, not letting anyone getting a word in and talking over interviewer until they have made their point, it's a technique to use us for allotted ait time to make their point on one issue. I don't listen to them anymore, they are empty vessels.

All the parties do it.

MayBee70 Wed 10-Sept-25 08:14:54

MaizieD

Allsorts

I do think Labour in general has had assertive training, not letting anyone getting a word in and talking over interviewer until they have made their point, it's a technique to use us for allotted ait time to make their point on one issue. I don't listen to them anymore, they are empty vessels.

All the parties do it.

That’s becauseMP’s are fed up of interviewers not letting them answer the question they’ve been asked.

Grantanow Wed 10-Sept-25 08:42:54

Labour need to stop fighting among themselves.

StripeyGran Wed 10-Sept-25 08:44:43

MayBee70

windmill1

The choice appears to be a second-rate bunch conjured up from a shambolic second-rate party. And all steered into unknown waters by a very vague Captain Flip-Flop.

So who would you like to have governing this country?

Who would you like to see running the show?

What an almightly mess.

TheWeirdoAgain60 Wed 10-Sept-25 08:50:33

I've literally never heard of her, so I've just Googled her ....

Still absolutely no idea who she is!

MaizieD Wed 10-Sept-25 08:52:49

Grantanow

Labour need to stop fighting among themselves.

I think that a fight is exactly what is needed to stop Labour’s terrible lurch to the right.

The leadership needs to be forcibly reminded if what Labour should stand for. Which is definitely not trying to satisfy Reform voters and impose more pointless austerity on the nation.

LizzieDrip Wed 10-Sept-25 08:58:16

Grantanow

Labour need to stop fighting among themselves.

Absolutely Grantanow.

For me, as a member of the Labour Party, I find their in-fighting soul destroying.

I know they say “Labour is a broad church” which is true and admirable.

But, the apparent determination of some within that “church”, to undermine and disrupt may ultimately be the downfall of the party. Why can’t they see this?

It’s something that has always disheartened me about Labour - they appear to be their own worst enemy!

For the first time in years, Labour is in government. FFS work together or you risk jeopardising that.

love0c Wed 10-Sept-25 08:58:26

Absolutely non of them! One ridiculed white van and flag fliers, one ridiculed private schools for their Astro turf and just happens to play for a hockey team that yes, pays to use a private school for use of their Astro turf and the other one called a party 'whistle blowers' for highlighting grooming gangs! What an absolute nasty shower!!!!!

annodomini Wed 10-Sept-25 09:58:36

I've always tended to like her in her public pronouncements, but this is a time when the 'emperor's new clothes' are stripped and we hear more about her than we previously have. I think she's a lightweight sometimes posing as a heavyweight politician.

Aveline Wed 10-Sept-25 10:06:31

I'd want someone from outside the London and South East bubble. Someone who knows what the actual populace is thinking rather than what the London centric media are spouting.

MaizieD Wed 10-Sept-25 10:31:42

Aveline

I'd want someone from outside the London and South East bubble. Someone who knows what the actual populace is thinking rather than what the London centric media are spouting.

I can't remember who said it, or where I read it yesterday, but I read a comment by a cabinet minister from the NE who claimed 'We have beaten Reform in the NE'.

As I live in a NE county where the county council has been taken over by Reform and every village around me is sporting wall to wall St George's Crosses I wonder if she might need to get out a bit more... Being a northeastener clearly isn't particularly helpful)

(I 'think' it was Lucy Powell, but not definite on that)

Allira Wed 10-Sept-25 11:09:06

Grantanow

Labour need to stop fighting among themselves.

Too many big egos in politics altogether.

I suppose that is why they become politicians.

Allira Wed 10-Sept-25 11:21:45

Aveline

I'd want someone from outside the London and South East bubble. Someone who knows what the actual populace is thinking rather than what the London centric media are spouting.

I think the Cabinet is more of a mix ater the reshuffle.

However - there is only one Cabinet member from Wales and only one for Scotland. Both are Secretaries of State for their respective countries.
This despite the fact that there are 32 Welsh Labour MPs and 37 Scottish Labour MPs in Parliament.

Even if the Cabinet has more of a spread of MPs, they all, with the exception of two, represent English constituencies as far as I know.

David49 Wed 10-Sept-25 12:54:35

A vey unlikely winner much more likely is one of the northern candidates, impossible to say who at this stage, hopefully a more substantial politician than AR.

Indiebee Wed 10-Sept-25 14:01:18

Looking forward to reading their statements. I am a Labour Party member and will miss Angela R on the front bench. Emily is very experienced, legal background and thinks things through. However someone from the north would be useful to particularly represent that part of the country.

Lostmyglassesxx Wed 10-Sept-25 14:04:42

Appears ? Is ? Proof? Honestly that’s nothing sweeping statment..

Lostmyglassesxx Wed 10-Sept-25 14:06:51

This was in response to someone saying she appears to be a heavy drinker .. bizarre statement to make ..

MollyNew Wed 10-Sept-25 14:08:32

Iam64

I don’t. Please delete if this breaches guidelines. She appears to be a very heavy drinker

Is this your opinion? What is it based on?