Let’s get real about migration

nanna8

When you hear about little children being crushed and killed on these small boats you kind of think it is serious and the government should put a stop to it immediately. Or don’t you care , and think it is only a couple of little kids ? It is disgusting in my book.

That's a really strange take on this dreadful tragedy why on earth would you imagine that anyone here would not care about children losing their lives?

Very interesting to read. The media unfortunately gives people an untrue picture of the situation. However, the cost is very worrying when our economy is under pressure already. Letting people work would reduce cost and add income from taxation but are there enough jobs that UK residence would not be knocked out of the job market?
I listened to an interview with some Afghan women judges who had to flee their homeland and now, as refugees, are unable to work. I am sure there are many able refugees who could usefully contribute to the country if allowed.

petra I don't always agree with you, but I do about this issue.

I really object to being called names because I try to be realistic and rational about immigration.

Migration is a fact of life and has been ever since the beginning of time. It can be controlled in various ways, but it's inevitable and (at times) desirable.

I absolutely agree with you petra (and others) that the first step to finding any solutions is to take the emotions out of the issue.

nanna8

When you hear about little children being crushed and killed on these small boats you kind of think it is serious and the government should put a stop to it immediately. Or don’t you care , and think it is only a couple of little kids ? It is disgusting in my book.

nanna8
How would you suggest our government put a stop to it immediately
Taking the emotion out of the issue the only realistic way would be to use a border patrol force vessel.
Have you any idea how big these vessels are in relation to the inflatables.
As the captain in charge your only option to achieve what you suggest is to force the inflatable to turn around thereby creating a very dangerous situation.
How many children could drown then.
Answers on a postcard would be appreciated by our government.

When you hear about little children being crushed and killed on these small boats you kind of think it is serious and the government should put a stop to it immediately. Or don’t you care , and think it is only a couple of little kids ? It is disgusting in my book.

Thanks for the detail. I haven’t seen so much info for a long time.
Using percentages to validate things is always a concern though.
Brexit was won by only 3.78%, and look how damaging that has been.

Thank you cyberjack.

Thank you Casdon. I hope some people will pay less attention to the hysterical demonisation of immigrants - but I fear it will mostly fall on deaf ears.

Thank you Casdon and Cyperjack. All this is very succinct and informative.

Please see this, I needed to read it as I was fearful for the UK
UK
1. Refugees make up less than 1 percent of the overall population
The UK provides safety to approximately 515,677 refugees (UNHCR) which means refugees make up less than 0.76% of the overall population.
2. People seeking asylum do not have the right to work in the UK
Asylum seekers waiting for their refugee claim/application to be processed are not allowed to work in the UK despite 68% of businesses and 81% of the public being in favour of a policy allowing this. 
People seeking asylum could positively contribute to the economy through consumer spending and paying tax. 
It is estimated that the UK economy could gain £333 million per year if the ban were lifted and we know that 94% of asylum seekers want to work. 

3. Irregular arrivals - including via small boats - make up a tiny number of overall immigration
In the year ending June 2023, people arriving irregularly - including via small boats - made up less than 5% of overall immigration figures. 
And most are refugees fleeing war and crises who had no other way of seeking protection in the UK than to make dangerous journeys.
Read more: 7 reasons people risk their lives to cross the Channel in small boats
4. Most people arriving by small boats are given asylum in the UK
More than 90% of people who have arrived in the UK by boat since 2018 claimed asylum, and most have had their asylum claims granted. Without an asylum visa, people fleeing conflict and crisis cannot pre-emptively apply to claim asylum from their home country. As conflicts continue, people will continue to risk their lives as their only option, hoping to find safety and security in a new country.
Immigration statistics released in February 2024 show that Afghans make up the largest nationality of people crossing the Channel. A country from which 98% of asylum applications are granted.
5. There is no ‘safe route’ to seek asylum in the UK
There is currently no safe way to apply for asylum at all and almost no safe ways to enter the UK to receive protection. That is why the IRC is calling for more safe routes. Providing safe routes for refugees means offering protection and safe ways of reaching the UK so that refugees don’t have to resort to dangerous journeys. Refugee visas, resettlement schemes and family reunion are three pathways to the UK that would qualify as safe routes.

Read more about safe routes here: What are safe routes in the UK? Four common myths explained
here's the source: www.rescue.org/uk/article/facts-about-refugees-key-facts-faqs-and-statistics?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21287962758&gbraid=0AAAAAD3H3WmFXjrYNKA8BB0KIy8MjVptH&gclid=Cj0KCQjww4TGBhCKARIsAFLXndQml5ckYUV0oxS-l22KU80ODzJKgZO8Vhhta5KMVROhlfSwaIgZ9csaAvEGEALw_wcB

Spinnaker

^Let’s get real about migration^

That'll never happen on GN 😂

Not just GN, but unfortunately you're right.

Skydancer

This country has already changed forever. Something needs to be done about this ridiculous situation although I fear it’s too late.

Have you read the article?

Let’s get real about migration

That'll never happen on GN 😂

This country has already changed forever. Something needs to be done about this ridiculous situation although I fear it’s too late.