Can Starmer survive? The wolves are circling in the Labour Party.

Billy Bragg is an odious oddball.
I gave up on QT a while ago, it’s just a rent-a-rant and no more representative of the British people than the chat in your local pub.

I am afraid that Billy Bragg is exactly what people are voting against.
Calling people gammon, cheering on Kneecap and calling women bigots. He stands for nothing I would want to follow.

Yes growstuff 🤮

Yesterday I heard two political comments that made me feel positive and reminded me about the good in the UK.

Firstly the PM, in his speech, when talking about the wonderful multi cultural nature of the UK said we celebrate “difference under the same flag” ✔️

Secondly, Billy Brag on QT said (I’m paraphrasing) the citizens of the UK will decide whether they are ones who stand with racists wanting to set fire to buildings with people in them, or they are the ones who come out the next day to clear up the mess.

He then said “I know which side I’m on”. Huge applause from QT audience. ✔️

I know firmly where I stand in relation to these statements. So, thank you KS and BB for reminding us that the folk of this country are good, decent, tolerant people who celebrate diversity.

Yes, I think KS will remain as PM and I believe, by the time of the next GE, the citizens of the UK will have seen Reform exactly for what it is … and will want none of its toxic snake oil.

Thanks all, I missed QT but will watch on catch up.
I listen to Any Questions and it’s a relief to hear considered views, rather than simple angry rants

LizzieDrip

Yes MayBee I saw Tice on QT. What a smug, rude, odious man he is. He interrupted Lisa Nandy every time she spoke - don’t know how she kept her cool with him.

The audience clearly weren’t buying his snake oil. But, I suppose some GN posters will do - hey ho🤷‍♀️

They smother themselves with the slimey stuff! Yuk!

Yes MayBee I saw Tice on QT. What a smug, rude, odious man he is. He interrupted Lisa Nandy every time she spoke - don’t know how she kept her cool with him.

The audience clearly weren’t buying his snake oil. But, I suppose some GN posters will do - hey ho🤷‍♀️

fancythat

Mollygo

fancythat

Is Sir KS pleasing anyone at all?

Surely you must have read posts on GN expressing praise and delight.

Not lately!
Perhaps I am not looking in the right places!

I voted for Labour led by Keir Starmer. I’m sick of governments that change leader every five minutes. If people have a problem write to Keir. Write to your MP. In fact write to any MP and tell them what you think, where you think things could be improved, where things are going wrong.Instead of moaning on the internet and thinking that it’s ok to change leader every five minutes. Or that Reform* have the solution to everything.
*Did anyone see Tice ( who spends half his time in Dubai with his girlfriend who is criticising ID cards but is happy to live in a country that uses them) on Question Time last night. Audience ( Brexit voting area, too) made mincemeat of him. But the news media today still asked Reform about their opinion on just about everything.

Primrose53

Casdon

You need to improve your sources Primrose53. We know what The Canary is.

Still doesn’t alter the facts that Labour Together were fined over £14k for undeclared donations and later the Electoral Commission declared over £730,000 of donations were blamed on an “administration error”.

The whole thing reeks!

Which was paid in 2021, and is not a new revelation? Here is a Fact Check, which is somewhat more reliable.
www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-the-donation-scandal-surrounding-sir-keir-starmers-top-aide-explained

Galaxy

I quite like Suzanne Moores tweet on the matter.
'Everyone needs to calm down about Andy Burnham. Including Andy Burnham'

Thanks for this, raised a smile here.

I stopped buying the G when they kept and feted the awful Owen Jones but banished some good women

Mollygo

fancythat

Is Sir KS pleasing anyone at all?

Surely you must have read posts on GN expressing praise and delight.

Not lately!
Perhaps I am not looking in the right places!

Casdon

You need to improve your sources Primrose53. We know what The Canary is.

Still doesn’t alter the facts that Labour Together were fined over £14k for undeclared donations and later the Electoral Commission declared over £730,000 of donations were blamed on an “administration error”.

The whole thing reeks!

fancythat

Is Sir KS pleasing anyone at all?

Surely you must have read posts on GN expressing praise and delight.

Is Sir KS pleasing anyone at all?

I think when you get to this stage ( admittedly this usually happens when a party has been in government for years) the scandals/cock ups just keep mounting, it becomes unstoppable after a while

18 months, or is it 16, seems very early to me, for a Party to be getting into such bother.

Primrose53

Surprised there has been no mention on here about the latest scandal with McSweeny.

My opinion is, if someone is not an actual MP, they get largely overlooked.

You need to improve your sources Primrose53. We know what The Canary is.

mcSweeny dodged a criminal offence on a technicality.

“Whoops I made a mistake”, pretty much what AR said. 😂

www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2025/09/26/mcsweeney-electoral-commission/

I quite like Suzanne Moores tweet on the matter.
'Everyone needs to calm down about Andy Burnham. Including Andy Burnham'

Burnham twice tried and failed to be elected leader. I like him but I’m disappointed he’s manoeuvring at this point. Wait for a constituency to become available, see if yiu can win it. If Keir hasn’t managed to improve his ratings, suggest a leadership contest in the fullness of time.
Burnham is evidently popular in the north, not in the south, back stabbing isn’t a positive quality

westendgirl

Burnham has gone down in my estimation by letting himself get dragged into this possible contest at this particular time. Loyalty is paramount and I found his recent interview very worrying. If he really isn't interested then he could have been very firm in his denial. ~To me it says a lot about him.

They all want to be PM given half a chance, loyalty goes out the window.

Casdon

www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/26/morgan-mcsweeney-labour-together-electoral-commission-no-evidence-other-offences
Keep up.

You don't think that would stop the right, do you?

According to the Mail 'there is an email'.... (say it in an ominous tone of voice..)

Burnham has gone down in my estimation by letting himself get dragged into this possible contest at this particular time. Loyalty is paramount and I found his recent interview very worrying. If he really isn't interested then he could have been very firm in his denial. ~To me it says a lot about him.

It’s so bad, one of my friends (almost ) seriously suggested we abandon the north and go to Westminster to help out

Iam64

Steph Driver has presided over terrible comms. I can hear “things can only get better “ singing in my head. Please don’t let it be an omen 🤣

She really has. I hope whoever they get to take over makes a better fist of it. They could hardly do worse, to be fair.

Steph Driver has presided over terrible comms. I can hear “things can only get better “ singing in my head. Please don’t let it be an omen 🤣