Duchess of York removed as Patron by 5 children’s charities.

She certainly knows how to work the media, a friend on Jeremy
Vine in less than 48 hours

Hope the unsavoury pair get what they deserve.

Eloethan

I can't understand why charities accept patronage from people who have achieved nothing of any value, just because they have certain connections.

Because their patronage is likely to more than double donations.

Publicity? Cameras flash for royalty

I can't understand why charities accept patronage from people who have achieved nothing of any value, just because they have certain connections.

Sue for what reason, he had been found guilty, nothing libellous in her announcement to the world when questioned about her relationship with Epstein.

Okay, I am not a Fergie fan, but I got the impression that she sent that email to placate him. Maybe she was simply scared. He was threatening to sue.

Interesting ferry all the same. Can you imagine working class girls in that situation years ago. Double standards. Money and status smooths many paths.

Magenta8

It has often struck me over the years how, some not all, the royals and their circle behave in way that has a great deal in common with the lowest strata of society.

Far from setting an example to us plebs and having had a privileged upbringing, they seem to think that normal rules of honesty and morals don't apply to them.

Magenta - this subject often came up in those working with children and families. Especially in the 79’s and early 80’s when one response to supporting chaotic neglectful families was to send the children off to residential schools

Will a British TV company air an interview with Sarah, the usual stuff, ‘my mother left me’, ‘I was so lonely and insecure’
They will get high viewing numbers

Sells newspapers

It's interesting to see the tangled webs woven by the upper echelons of society.

One of the more interesting is the allegation that the Duke of Kent (not the current Duke, his Father) fathered 2 illegitimate children, the 2nd being Raine McCorquodale. her Mother being Barbara Cartland who at the time of Raine's birth, was still married to Alexander McCorquodale.

Raine of course went on to marry Johnny Spencer (Diana's Father) Diana's sister Sarah married Neil McCorquodale who was a second cousin to Raine.

Sorry, I've taken the thread off topic, I'll be quiet now.

The famous Monmouth Rebellion in 1685, not in Monmouth itself, but led by the Duke of Monmouth, illegitimate son of Charles II.
It did not end well.

ferry23 If you study European Monarchy you'll find there's love children all over the place!

Perhaps one of the most famous of these was Henry Fitzroy Duke of Richmond and Somerset and illegitimate son of Henry VIII. Of course there are many many more scattered around the world.

I doubt The King would discuss DNA testing, why would it be offered ?

Give King Charles his due. He declined DNA testing for Harry. That was a true Dad.

Wonder if that could be a reason he was her favourite?

In every generation of Royals, the patronage of one or more children has always been questioned. Not sure why. To distort the royal line - to whip up a scandal, to make oneself the centre of attention? Who knows? Andrew was allegedly the son of Lord Porchester, Harry of James Hewitt.

These days DNA would be used and any illegitimate child would be tactically sidelined and then given a "useful" purpose in a far flung part of the Commonwealth as an adult.

If you study European Monarchy you'll find there's love children all over the place! Both acknowledged and alleged.

It has often struck me over the years how, some not all, the royals and their circle behave in way that has a great deal in common with the lowest strata of society.

Far from setting an example to us plebs and having had a privileged upbringing, they seem to think that normal rules of honesty and morals don't apply to them.

Apparently not until after she was pregnant with their second child, UTTB, although I don't know about Andrew.

Beatrice looks like Queen Victoria and Eugenie looks like Andrew.

Is it absolutely awful of me to wonder, if all the stories of infidelity are true, about the parentage of their daughters?
They do both seem to adore their children though.

I think any charity that has her on their books should drop her like a hot brick. I am surprised that any charity still does have her as a patron .

She is an intelligent woman, who should be capable of learning from her mistakes and yet she never has. She has spent money as if it was going out of fashion and this made her dependent on unpleasant people like Epstein, who gave her large sums of money 'loans', to keep her out of bankruptcy. People like that do not give money without strings.

One of the late Queen's Private Secretaries described her as 'vulgar, vulgar. vulgar. he was right.

Iam64

Maybe the worst was their initial attraction Allira. If the latest book is accurate, it seems both were sexually involved with others very soon after they married

Tacky. Init.

Oh, goodness!

No, I thought it was after they had split up.

The ink was barely dry on the marriage certificate. 😮
They appeared to be an ideal match but obviously not for what I thought were the right reasons.

Maybe the worst was their initial attraction Allira. If the latest book is accurate, it seems both were sexually involved with others very soon after they married

Tacky. Init.