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Duchess of York removed as Patron by 5 children’s charities.

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 22-Sept-25 17:14:04

Due to her friendship with Epstein.
The domino effect begins.

Anniebach Fri 26-Sept-25 07:17:52

She certainly knows how to work the media, a friend on Jeremy
Vine in less than 48 hours

Allsorts Fri 26-Sept-25 07:11:23

Hope the unsavoury pair get what they deserve.

ferry23 Fri 26-Sept-25 07:05:29

Eloethan

I can't understand why charities accept patronage from people who have achieved nothing of any value, just because they have certain connections.

Because their patronage is likely to more than double donations.

Anniebach Fri 26-Sept-25 04:37:28

Publicity? Cameras flash for royalty

Eloethan Thu 25-Sept-25 23:51:41

I can't understand why charities accept patronage from people who have achieved nothing of any value, just because they have certain connections.

Anniebach Thu 25-Sept-25 18:45:56

Sue for what reason, he had been found guilty, nothing libellous in her announcement to the world when questioned about her relationship with Epstein.

Maremia Thu 25-Sept-25 18:32:36

Okay, I am not a Fergie fan, but I got the impression that she sent that email to placate him. Maybe she was simply scared. He was threatening to sue.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 25-Sept-25 17:52:58

Interesting ferry all the same. Can you imagine working class girls in that situation years ago. Double standards. Money and status smooths many paths.

Iam64 Thu 25-Sept-25 17:30:40

Magenta8

It has often struck me over the years how, some not all, the royals and their circle behave in way that has a great deal in common with the lowest strata of society.

Far from setting an example to us plebs and having had a privileged upbringing, they seem to think that normal rules of honesty and morals don't apply to them.

Magenta - this subject often came up in those working with children and families. Especially in the 79’s and early 80’s when one response to supporting chaotic neglectful families was to send the children off to residential schools

Anniebach Thu 25-Sept-25 15:32:34

Will a British TV company air an interview with Sarah, the usual stuff, ‘my mother left me’, ‘I was so lonely and insecure’
They will get high viewing numbers

Anniebach Thu 25-Sept-25 12:19:10

Sells newspapers

ferry23 Thu 25-Sept-25 12:16:20

It's interesting to see the tangled webs woven by the upper echelons of society.

One of the more interesting is the allegation that the Duke of Kent (not the current Duke, his Father) fathered 2 illegitimate children, the 2nd being Raine McCorquodale. her Mother being Barbara Cartland who at the time of Raine's birth, was still married to Alexander McCorquodale.

Raine of course went on to marry Johnny Spencer (Diana's Father) Diana's sister Sarah married Neil McCorquodale who was a second cousin to Raine.

Sorry, I've taken the thread off topic, I'll be quiet now.

Allira Thu 25-Sept-25 11:21:06

The famous Monmouth Rebellion in 1685, not in Monmouth itself, but led by the Duke of Monmouth, illegitimate son of Charles II.
It did not end well.

Magenta8 Thu 25-Sept-25 11:16:33

ferry23 If you study European Monarchy you'll find there's love children all over the place!

Perhaps one of the most famous of these was Henry Fitzroy Duke of Richmond and Somerset and illegitimate son of Henry VIII. Of course there are many many more scattered around the world.

Anniebach Thu 25-Sept-25 11:13:12

I doubt The King would discuss DNA testing, why would it be offered ?

Maremia Thu 25-Sept-25 11:02:19

Give King Charles his due. He declined DNA testing for Harry. That was a true Dad.

Maremia Thu 25-Sept-25 11:01:07

Wonder if that could be a reason he was her favourite?

ferry23 Thu 25-Sept-25 10:57:39

In every generation of Royals, the patronage of one or more children has always been questioned. Not sure why. To distort the royal line - to whip up a scandal, to make oneself the centre of attention? Who knows? Andrew was allegedly the son of Lord Porchester, Harry of James Hewitt.

These days DNA would be used and any illegitimate child would be tactically sidelined and then given a "useful" purpose in a far flung part of the Commonwealth as an adult.

If you study European Monarchy you'll find there's love children all over the place! Both acknowledged and alleged.

Magenta8 Thu 25-Sept-25 10:52:47

It has often struck me over the years how, some not all, the royals and their circle behave in way that has a great deal in common with the lowest strata of society.

Far from setting an example to us plebs and having had a privileged upbringing, they seem to think that normal rules of honesty and morals don't apply to them.

Allira Thu 25-Sept-25 10:39:42

Apparently not until after she was pregnant with their second child, UTTB, although I don't know about Andrew.

Beatrice looks like Queen Victoria and Eugenie looks like Andrew.

Usedtobeblonde Thu 25-Sept-25 10:08:44

Is it absolutely awful of me to wonder, if all the stories of infidelity are true, about the parentage of their daughters?
They do both seem to adore their children though.

M0nica Thu 25-Sept-25 09:35:56

I think any charity that has her on their books should drop her like a hot brick. I am surprised that any charity still does have her as a patron .

She is an intelligent woman, who should be capable of learning from her mistakes and yet she never has. She has spent money as if it was going out of fashion and this made her dependent on unpleasant people like Epstein, who gave her large sums of money 'loans', to keep her out of bankruptcy. People like that do not give money without strings.

One of the late Queen's Private Secretaries described her as 'vulgar, vulgar. vulgar. he was right.

Allira Wed 24-Sept-25 21:57:16

Iam64

Maybe the worst was their initial attraction Allira. If the latest book is accurate, it seems both were sexually involved with others very soon after they married

Tacky. Init.

Oh, goodness!

No, I thought it was after they had split up.

merlotgran Wed 24-Sept-25 21:44:12

The ink was barely dry on the marriage certificate. 😮
They appeared to be an ideal match but obviously not for what I thought were the right reasons.

Iam64 Wed 24-Sept-25 21:16:01

Maybe the worst was their initial attraction Allira. If the latest book is accurate, it seems both were sexually involved with others very soon after they married

Tacky. Init.