Breaking news, midnight - Peace in the Middle East?

“Of course it would be good if someone/something really "powerful" could come in and grab the weapons off both sides - but it ain't going to happen....so....."Houston we have a problem" of one side will keep their weapons = so the other side has to as well....”

Any country would be very cautious about sending security forces into Gaza with an armed Hamas still established because the would end up taking casualties fighting Hamas and the other terrorists in Gaza.

If Israel does not disarm Hamas any other security force certainly has no chance because Hamas will continue using civilians a human shields, they are fanatics and don’t care how many civilians die.

Typos - sorry about that, but I think it meaning is clear.

Part three.

Sky news reported “the Israelis have banned my kind (Palestinian) of celebration. They have also banned the families of the hostages being interviewed by the press.

The silencing is the systematic oppression that has been in place for 7 decades.

Our political leaders have used this moment not to unite but to deepen division further dehumanising those who have already lost so much.

This is not leadership - it is inhumanity.

True leadership means compassion for all humanity, having the courage to heal a fractured world, and to insist every life deserves dignity.

There is no hope in this for me, only anger and heartbreak at the injustice of it all, and the conviction that silence would be complicit

Alison Kriel

London

David49

With Hamas refusing to disarm and openly executing those that oppose them I’m not expecting this ceasefire to last long. It’s all about Hamas reorganizing to make it impossible for any new security force to operate

Unfortunately I agree with you.

Anyone who thinks Hamas are going to lay down arms and disappear needs to give their heads a wobble.

Part two

“All Israeli hostages have now been released. Meanwhile around 10000 Palestinians remain imprisoned of whom 1000 are children. Held without charge or trial.

The images say even more. The Israeli hostages appeared pale but physically well.

Around 2000 Palestinian hostages were released including a child with autism, and they all showed signs of physical and emotional torture, malnutrition and exhaustion.

One group (of hostages returned to safety, food and home, the other group to rubble, starvation and grief. Some were sent into enforced excise eithout seeing their loved ones

Article by Alison Kriel Head teacher and consultant on Education.

“ I couldn’t bear the news yesterday. The disregard for people trapped in a living hell is deeply painful to witness. This ceasefire is not peace or justice. There is no talk of reparation or accountability and Palestine has no control over its borders, airspace, civil administration or access to essential supplies.
Soldiers have left a landscape of devastation, boobytraps hidden amongst rubble and they destroyed food stores and humanitarian aid before withdrawing. Even children’s toys and food tins have been found rigged with explosions.

The media circuses and political performances have been unbearable.

The compassion shown to the Israeli hostages has been profound, and rightly so. Every life deserves care and dignity. But the contrast is impossible to ignore. The language alone reveals a stark bias: Israeli hostages including active soldiers are highlighted, whilst Palestinian hostages, some of whom are children, are portrayed in ways that criminalise and dehumanise them. This is not accidental, it is a deliberate attempt to shape perception.

In truth - all are hostages.

Many palestinans have been held for years - even decades - without trial, underscoring a long-standing pattern of unequal and punitive treatment that raises serious human rights concerns.

“If your moral compass is attuned to the suffering of only one side, your compass is broken, and so is your humanity.”

Barbara Plet Usher

During the BBC programme From Our Own Correspondent broadcast on 30 September 2004, Plett Usher said she cried when she saw Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat being taken to hospital during his terminal illness.[5] This led to suggestions that the BBC was biased. After many complaints from viewers the BBC Governors' Programme Complaints Committee ruled that Plett Usher had breached editorial guidelines on due impartiality and the BBC's director of News, Helen Boaden, apologised for an editorial misjudgment.[6]

Too true WWM .
The joy of the Israeli welcoming the few living hostages home will be tempered by the shadow of thousands of dead Palestinians.

How do wars end?

Barbara Plett Usher describes the condition of the Palestinians released from Israeli prisons - thin, emaciated, pale, unable to walk by themselves.

Israel routinely tortures and sexually abuses Palestinians they hold. They also withhold medical treatment.

There is so much inhumanity. Both sides have spiralled downwards into the sewer of brutality. It has become normalised.

Peace can never prosper until humanity does.

And, as RosieandherMaw says

And in many cases, sadly with ongoing or life-limiting conditions.

It's just crass.

CariadAgain has got it wrong, Daniella Weiss is 80 years old, birthdate 30th August 1945.
Still when you're wishing death on somebody what's a year wrong?

Apparently, it's a positive thing that people in that age group will be popping off soon.

The second post I've seen from CariadAgain in a couple of days in a similar vein.

Quote CariadAgain Tue 14-Oct-25 21:05:20
Just checked - she's Daniella Weiss. The only positive thing about her is the google entry said that she's older than I thought she was - ie 79 - so age and infirmity should hopefully equal she's not on the scene stirring it much longer

You are speaking of all 79 and over ?

Allira

CariadAgain

Just checked - she's Daniella Weiss. The only positive thing about her is the google entry said that she's older than I thought she was - ie 79 - so age and infirmity should hopefully equal she's not on the scene stirring it much longer.

Yet another ageist post from you.

She may be an extremist, she may or may not be dangerous or just deluded but making yet another ageist comment about a older person not being here much longer is unpleasant on a site aimed at older people.

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I absolutely agree!
What message does it put out to GN members given our demographic?
And in many cases, sadly with ongoing or life-limiting conditions.
Shameful!

CariadAgain

Just checked - she's Daniella Weiss. The only positive thing about her is the google entry said that she's older than I thought she was - ie 79 - so age and infirmity should hopefully equal she's not on the scene stirring it much longer.

Yet another ageist post from you.

She may be an extremist, she may or may not be dangerous or just deluded but making yet another ageist comment about a older person not being here much longer is unpleasant on a site aimed at older people.

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Hope it's not the IDF going back in.
Hope that the aid trucks are.

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I thought it was that government that kept coming back for more war - ie I'm expecting Netanyahu to start it all up again on some excuse or another. After all - I don't suppose for one second he's dropped the Greater Israel idea. So, that being the case, ie that we know Netanyahu will be champing at the bit to "come back for more" as soon as he's found an excuse to start it all up again = even though I obviously disagree with any intention of not disarming that Hamas has = it ain't a logical thing to do to disarm when you know your enemy is going to be back to fighting again the first excuse they can think up for doing so.

Then there's that vile leading settler woman - whose name I can't remember at the moment - but she'll doubtless be on the rampage again soon and I heard her say she'd personally like to head into Gaza and grab territory there. Nothing is going to stop her creating all the trouble she possibly can for the rest of her life..

Of course it would be good if someone/something really "powerful" could come in and grab the weapons off both sides - but it ain't going to happen....so....."Houston we have a problem" of one side will keep their weapons = so the other side has to as well....

David49

With Hamas refusing to disarm and openly executing those that oppose them I’m not expecting this ceasefire to last long. It’s all about Hamas reorganizing to make it impossible for any new security force to operate

Then either the IDF will have to go back into Gaza City or another force will.Order has to be restored and hamas disarm.The Arab countries will have to strongarm the hamas leaders.

eazybee

^Fact is Israel and its uk based arms manufacturers Elbit Systems, whose premises were attacked by PA, put a lot of pressure on the government to proscribe this group. No-one was hurt it was just equipment and buildings.^

It was not 'throwing paint around ..... it was just equipment and buildings.'
It was injecting red paint deliberately into the engine of two planes to disable them and damaging their propellers with crowbars, at a cost of £7 million. Your ignorance about the seriousness of this attack is what is truly terrifying. I can only assume your support for this action comes because you consider a link to Israel to be sufficient justification for this attack.

That’s what I think too Eazybee and staff at the Israeli owned company were terrified by the masked and balaclava clad intruders threatening them.I heard at the time that a security guard was hurt too.
Then the damage to the two military planes.

Trump’s Plan B.

With Hamas refusing to disarm and openly executing those that oppose them I’m not expecting this ceasefire to last long. It’s all about Hamas reorganizing to make it impossible for any new security force to operate

As the rubble is cleared the shocking horror of this war will be fully revealed. It is believed there are far more dead than has been officially stated.

Being realistic - Gaza has been so messed-up it would be a wonder if anyone knows where those bodies are now. Bit by bit bodies/skeletons? are going to emerge from under the rubble etc and I should think it's known very well that Hamas quite likely can't actually trace where the bodies are themselves.

They may not be found for months - with the best will in the world...