Maccabi Tel Aviv football club banned

The team are known for anti-Arab racism and shouting obscene and racist chants at Israeli Arab and non-Israeli Muslims players in Israeli teams. They are not the innocents you seem to think they are.

You make me confused , growstuff. Where did I even infer that the Maccabi football team were innocents? I wasn't talking about them. I was following up others' comments about the hooligans who start trouble and become violent. I did not even mention the 11 players in the team , it's not about them, whatever your Jewish friend says.
I do happen to know that the Amsterdam violence kicked off in Dam Square on the Wednesday, days before the team had even played AFC Ajax, so how could the actual team players possibly be held responsible?

Just your opinions then. Not those of everyone.

Oreo

Nice try growstuff but you’re completely wrong .
The police said they couldn’t manage the situation as they were worried that locals who were pro Palestinian and others not from the area would converge outside the stadium to cause trouble.
Of course it’s because they’re Israeli!
This has never been about concern of football fans.What about the imam telling locals to ‘spare them no mercy’ that’s about football is it?

Yes, this exactly.

Well at least that is what the Police Force said.

Perhaps they knew they put both feet in it and have backtracked now? I don't know.

I haven't fallen for anything Oreo. You have your opinion and I have mine.

StripeyGran

Oreo

Nice try growstuff but you’re completely wrong .
The police said they couldn’t manage the situation as they were worried that locals who were pro Palestinian and others not from the area would converge outside the stadium to cause trouble.
Of course it’s because they’re Israeli!
This has never been about concern of football fans.What about the imam telling locals to ‘spare them no mercy’ that’s about football is it?

What about the statement I posted earlier from Muslims who wish to distance themselves from this person?

Give it a rest.

Give it a rest.

Are you trying to control the thread StripedGran?

That is really quite ironic.
Against the rules too, I believe.

The reason posters keep trying to say it’s just about football and nothing to do with the fact that the Israeli fans will be a magnet for all kinds of violent pro Palestinian aggro, is a mystery.
Or is it?

Allira I know!!!

But some on this thread keep insisting it is Allira 🤷🏼‍♀️

Oreo yep

Oreo

Nice try growstuff but you’re completely wrong .
The police said they couldn’t manage the situation as they were worried that locals who were pro Palestinian and others not from the area would converge outside the stadium to cause trouble.
Of course it’s because they’re Israeli!
This has never been about concern of football fans.What about the imam telling locals to ‘spare them no mercy’ that’s about football is it?

What about the statement I posted earlier from Muslims who wish to distance themselves from this person?

Give it a rest.

AGAA4

Allira Maccabi is not allowed to play football in the Arab league of nations for political reasons. Perhaps I wasn't clear.

Perfectly clear.

I will reiterate: The Arab League of Nations is not a football league!!

AGAA4

Now we know how violent Maccabi is I feel that the antipathy towards the police and Aston Villa has been misplaced. There have been accusations of antisemitism towards them when they were just trying to do what's best for their own supporters and the neighbourhood round the club.
I wouldn't want racist violent thugs in my neighbourhood. I know not all are like that but it only takes a few.

Don’t fall for it AGA4

Nice try growstuff but you’re completely wrong .
The police said they couldn’t manage the situation as they were worried that locals who were pro Palestinian and others not from the area would converge outside the stadium to cause trouble.
Of course it’s because they’re Israeli!
This has never been about concern of football fans.What about the imam telling locals to ‘spare them no mercy’ that’s about football is it?

Now we know how violent Maccabi is I feel that the antipathy towards the police and Aston Villa has been misplaced. There have been accusations of antisemitism towards them when they were just trying to do what's best for their own supporters and the neighbourhood round the club.
I wouldn't want racist violent thugs in my neighbourhood. I know not all are like that but it only takes a few.

escaped

The vast majority of supporters are not there to cause violence. Lathyrus and other posters are correct in saying that such acts are contrary to any club's values and to any normal supporter's values.

My DGS plays for an international club at Academy level. This year over 1000 players from 30 countries, plus many more supporters lived abroad side by side for a week in perfect harmony to compete in numerous matches. They included teams from Morocco, Egypt, Ghana, Nigeria, Tanzania, Tunisia, Jordan, including representation from Jews etc.

It's only once out in the world of hatred and harassment that the beautiful game is spoilt by a small minority of people whose only agenda is to cause trouble and attack the supporters of the Israeli team. More often than not, they have nothing to do with football, but as Kate1949 says, use the occasion as an excuse for mayhem and violence.

Are you aware of Maccabi Tel Aviv's reputation withing Israel itself? When there was the trouble in Holland last year, I was speaking to a Jewish friend, who had lived in Israel, about the team. They are known for anti-Arab racism and shouting obscene and racist chants at Israeli Arab and non-Israeli Muslims players in Israeli teams. They are not the innocents you seem to think they are. It's the club's responsibility to clean up its fans behaviour, just as other clubs (including some British ones) have had to do.

In Holland last year there was recorded chanting and at least one physical attack on a Muslim taxi driver, including the tearing town of Palestinian flags from private properties and an attack on a private house. Dutch fans were provoked and responded and five were prosecuted. Nothing was done about the Maccabi fans because they had left the country and the club has taken no action.

Aston Villa has already suffered hooliganism from Legia Warsaw away fans in 2023, which resulted in the banning of the Polish team's away fans for five matches. Recently, Ajax fans were banned from travelling to an away match in Marseille. Banning away fans has become more common. Maccabi Tel Aviv has not been picked on because it's Israeli.

Maremia

Didn't know that the team was already banned from another League.
Nothing on the news since this morning.
The Police must still be pondering the safety issue.

Originally, Maccabi Tel Aviv played under the name "Palestine" until the creation of the state of Israel. From 1954, Israel played in the Asian Football Confederation, but other Asian teams refused to play them after the 1967 war, so they were voted out. Israel was given UEFA membership in 1994.

There are always way to help 'causes' which interest you.

One way to help Afghan women and girls is to work with Refugee charities near your own home.

Maccabi can't play in Asia or Africa so their only option was Europe who allowed them to join.

Not quite sure why, but the Taliban is at the moment in armed conflict with Pakistani forces. Killings on both sides.

Allira Maccabi is not allowed to play football in the Arab league of nations for political reasons. Perhaps I wasn't clear.

Posters are free to start their own Threads about issues that interest or distress them.

Jaberwok

Oh, and Afghanistan, particularly the women. Why no protests about that regime, particularly after that dreadful earthquake where women couldn't be rescued by unrelated men! Seriously, does nobody care about a country run by such cruelty? Unbelievable hypocrisy by West.

Some of us are still pretty annoyed at the way the west walked away from Afghanistan and gave it back to the Taliban, thus taking away women’s rights yet again. But there’s a limit to the amount of time we can spend banging our heads against a brick wall when it comes to such issues . It’s all too depressing.

AGAA4

Maccabi was allowed into UEFA despite not being European when it was expelled from the Arab League.
Perhaps UEFA are regretting this with all the problems with this club.

The Arab League is not a football league.
🤔

Oh, and Afghanistan, particularly the women. Why no protests about that regime, particularly after that dreadful earthquake where women couldn't be rescued by unrelated men! Seriously, does nobody care about a country run by such cruelty? Unbelievable hypocrisy by West.