Posters ready to disrupt

GrannyGravy13

GN/MN do not delete posts due to someone disagreeing with them.

They delete post which are against guidelines, these guidelines are available for all to see.

No matter how many times this is pointed out CariadAgain you insist that they are 🤷‍♀️

I would like to see your evidence to back up your claims that posts are deleted due to multiple reports by so called cliques

Gransnet mods interpret guidelines more protectively than other chat room mods.

Did anyone else think this was a thread was about grouchy Gransnet forum members?

Just me then

I'm drinking coffee.

Consequently, I am ironing bedding with iPad on beside me
That's exactly how I do it, except with my phone. And that's why I make mistakes!

I'm home with a not well DGC asleep upstairs.

All confined to barracks, it seems!

escaped

Reply was to Allira.
(I'm at home this week with poorly dog, and too much time to kill).

I am confined to home until the traffic clears, ( car accident ) has cleared and I can get on with my plans.

Consequently I am ironing bedding with iPad on beside be 🤷‍♀️

I just don't get what Daisy is saying about self characterisation on this thread?

Me neither but it is interesting.

As I posted on a thread recently:
"O wad some Power the giftie gie us / To see oursels as ithers see us!".

But that goes for all posters of course.

Reply was to Allira.
(I'm at home this week with poorly dog, and too much time to kill).

A derailer then! Which apparently is disruptive? Though always courteous, and never tell posters what they can or can't say.

I just don't get what Daisy is saying about self characterisation on this thread?

Sorry for disrupting with a question on psychology that probably isn't relevant to this thread anyway!

GN/MN do not delete posts due to someone disagreeing with them.

They delete post which are against guidelines, these guidelines are available for all to see.

No matter how many times this is pointed out CariadAgain you insist that they are 🤷‍♀️

I would like to see your evidence to back up your claims that posts are deleted due to multiple reports by so called cliques

MaizieD

@CariadAgain

You have absolutely no evidence for what you are repeatedly saying about the reporting of posts. You don't do yourself any favours by going over and over the same ground.

Moderation is demonstrably inconsistent on the board; we just have to grin and bear it. Poster who feel they've been wrongly moderated can contact the mods who 'may' sort it out for them. That's the best that is on offer.

That is obviously unrealistic - as it implies a poster would keep a copy of every post they made - just in case it got "wiped". So as to have the evidence to present to the mods - ie "Dear mods - see below 10 posts there's nothing wrong with whatsoever....but someone took it on herself to report it. Please reconsider and reinstate it".

Sounds like a lot of work to preserve our British rights of freedom of speech.

I guess you know that is not a realistic proposition - as I don't suppose someone would say that if they thought evidence would be presented so to say of unreasonable deletions.

I know I've been called a disruptor

Really? I'm astonished from what I have seen of your posts, escaped!

DaisyAnneReturns

Has anybody else noticed the unwitting self-characterisation by some of the writers on this thread?

It might have been worth asking if others would see you as a poster "ready to disrupt", before using hints and twists to suggest it only other posters.

Can you explain exactly? Who?

I know I've been called a disruptor, but I'm entitled to explain that it is not meant intentionally - more often than not a way to lighten a thread.

I'm confused here whether we are talking about the rude aggressive disruptors, the belittling disruptors, the frivolous disruptor, the reporting disruptors, or the whole of GN membership?

MayBee70

I don’t understand why those ( Farage et al) who tell everyone that they are the true patriots are the very ones telling everyone how awful this country is. Until Brexit I’d never had people shouting nasty things to me in the street .

Who shouts at you in the street? 😲

Mind you, someone shouted at me in Tesco but he was obviously off his trolley (no pun intended).

CariadAgain
I've never yet spotted a thread started or post made to deliberately create trouble.

I can't say the same for strange threads started, usually with American spellings, with very involved family stories.

I sometimes wonder if they are posted to try to get posters to reveal details about themselves. Best avoided.

Has anybody else noticed the unwitting self-characterisation by some of the writers on this thread?

It might have been worth asking if others would see you as a poster "ready to disrupt", before using hints and twists to suggest it only other posters.

@CariadAgain

You have absolutely no evidence for what you are repeatedly saying about the reporting of posts. You don't do yourself any favours by going over and over the same ground.

Moderation is demonstrably inconsistent on the board; we just have to grin and bear it. Poster who feel they've been wrongly moderated can contact the mods who 'may' sort it out for them. That's the best that is on offer.

Allira

^Does anyone post in a deliberate manner? I don't think so. And different posters latch on to different things. So starting a thread can go either way. It might look contrived to some, but that's pure chance and not intentional.^

No, I don't think they do either.

Posters may see something topical, something new reported in the media and decide to start a thread about it.

Those who may disagree may see it as trying to goad, or disrupt. That, however, is just their view.
Other opinions are available.

We can agree on that point. I've never yet spotted a thread started or post made to deliberately create trouble. Lots of people disagreeing with other people and certainly some indications that there are people who don't respect other peoples right to "freedom of speech" and report others just for having a different view to them personally. Really objects to the "hurty words brigade" - of "OOh ...they've called something by its accurate name - but I don't agree with the name they've used....ooh....I feel like stirring it...so I'll report it (even though that poster has done nothing wrong). They don't cast any credit on themselves for such behaviour.

I still don't understand why there are people who report just for a difference of opinion. What would be the point anyway of everyone having the same opinion as each other? Anyway - this is Britain, ie a country where we are most definitely supposed to have the right to "freedom of speech". That's one of the plus sides of being in Britain.

So - yep back to my point that one should only report if a post/thread is genuinely wrong (not just because they have the other opinion to oneself). My finger would go on the report button if someone proposed cruelty to children or animals for instance or put up a spam post. But, as stated before, I've never yet reported anyone because I've never yet seen such a reportable post.

No-one has to read a thread or individual post if they don't want to. They are doing so voluntarily and - if they are genuinely going to let their blood pressure get raised just because they personally disagree with someone else = just leave the darn thread and stop doing "report/report/report" just in order to push your own set of personal opinions apparently higher. People do themselves no credit by others thinking "I've spotted a censorious type there....hmmmm....." and add their name to a mental list of "self-appointed censors".

MayBee70

I don’t understand why those ( Farage et al) who tell everyone that they are the true patriots are the very ones telling everyone how awful this country is. Until Brexit I’d never had people shouting nasty things to me in the street .

I don’t understand that, why would anyone shout at you in the street?

I'd do a 👍 too, but it might look like a clique in action!
😆

petra

Allira

Perhaps those posters who disapprove of certain threads should write out a list of subjects which meet their approval so that we who are not in the know become aware of which subjects are considered suitable for threads and which are not on the Approved List?

It might be helpful.

I think that’s worth putting before the committee, don’t you think 😂

👍

Allira

Perhaps those posters who disapprove of certain threads should write out a list of subjects which meet their approval so that we who are not in the know become aware of which subjects are considered suitable for threads and which are not on the Approved List?

It might be helpful.

I think that’s worth putting before the committee, don’t you think 😂

Three points I've taken from this thread are
1. Ignore threads or posts if I think they are being used to goad or ask for clarification if it seems personally goady. I already do this and interestingly I rarely get a reply!
2. Leave unpleasant posts up but ignore them. They say more about the poster than anyone else. I do this already.
3. If I get deleted, and I don't think I have broken the guidelines, next time I'll ask the moderators why.
This is what I'll do and others can do as they like.

The 'how awful this country is' isn't just confined to Farage though is it, it has been for many years the cry of the left, Britain's colonialist past, the terrible statues, the institutions riddled by racism, the flag, and on and on.