Reform are spending £75,000 putting up Union flags in Nottingham

I have not said that I assume all those in favour of having this nation’s flag are racist, nor have I implied it HowVeryDareYou2.

Casdon I'm assuming most of them are left-wing, just as some of you on here assume all those in favour of having this nation's flag are racist. Again, what makes the flying of our flags hateful or divisive?

Flags, we’ve got them in our Welsh village 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
Reform need to understand under International law we have to take migrants, or would they prefer we just drown them 🤔
God help us!

HowVeryDareYou2

What exactly makes the flying of the English flag or Union Jack hateful and divisive? What flags should be flown? If not those, then surely none.

‘So all the left wingers can rest easy again’ isn’t a fact, unless you personally know the political leaning of everybody who signed the petition? I imagine it was probably just people of a variety of political persuasions or none, who thought the money could be better spent.

What exactly makes the flying of the English flag or Union Jack hateful and divisive? What flags should be flown? If not those, then surely none.

Casdon I was stating a fact. Whether I agree or disagree with it doesn't matter, does it?

Hateful? I don’t agree at all, they’re our flags.

Oreo

In your opinion growstuff which you’re entitled to, but it doesn’t make it true.

What's not true about what I wrote? It's all true!

In your opinion growstuff which you’re entitled to, but it doesn’t make it true.

Oreo

Nagmad2016

Why would they be 'divisive flags'. Do you feel intimidated when you visit countries abroad and flags are flown on every building? It is a symbol of pride in their country. When the British do it, it's racist!!

…except it isn’t of course.
What you usually get on forums about flag flying are some silly comments along the lines of ‘oh yes, it’s fine to see flags in Norway/ France/Timbuctoo but it’s horrible and really upsets me to see them here so hateful and divisive!’ Usually followed by the tear / sad emoji. It makes me laugh tbh.

But they are hateful and divisive. Most of us know what they symbolise and why people are so intent on flying them. I can't say flags upset me, but I hate what the kind of nationalism they represent, so they're divisive. I certainly wouldn't want £75k of my council's revenue spent on them.

Casdon

My local town is a flag free zone - no Welsh, UK, Pride, Palestinian or any other flags assail you as you drive through from one end to the other. We did have some red, white and green bunting in the Main Street over the summer, but that’s gone now too. I think we are lucky - or boring, depending on how you look at it.

We have some bunting for special occasions like jubilees, but we seem to be a flag-free zone too. I like it that way!

My local town is a flag free zone - no Welsh, UK, Pride, Palestinian or any other flags assail you as you drive through from one end to the other. We did have some red, white and green bunting in the Main Street over the summer, but that’s gone now too. I think we are lucky - or boring, depending on how you look at it.

Conversely, they just love Pride flags or Palestinian ones.🤷🏼‍♀️

Nagmad2016

Why would they be 'divisive flags'. Do you feel intimidated when you visit countries abroad and flags are flown on every building? It is a symbol of pride in their country. When the British do it, it's racist!!

…except it isn’t of course.
What you usually get on forums about flag flying are some silly comments along the lines of ‘oh yes, it’s fine to see flags in Norway/ France/Timbuctoo but it’s horrible and really upsets me to see them here so hateful and divisive!’ Usually followed by the tear / sad emoji. It makes me laugh tbh.

Nobody is going to ban flags if they have any sense ( not spending money on it is a different thing). The pride flag makes me slightly uneasy due to the link I think it now has with misogyny but as I am aware that the world shouldn't revolve around my feelings, I think people have a right to fly it. I probably hold sightly different views about flags in the workplace.

I agree, total waste of cash

HowVeryDareYou2

Today, in Nottingham Post - there's a petition, with 3,500 signatures, against the flags being put up in Nottingham, so all the left-wingers can rest easy again. We've got a Pride Quarter (area in Hockley), though, and that's ok, apparently.

Do you mean you object to people expressing their views through signing a petition complaining about the Council spending money on flags?

It does mean a ban on Palestinian flags tho. A sensible move in a feverish climate possibly?

Today, in Nottingham Post - there's a petition, with 3,500 signatures, against the flags being put up in Nottingham, so all the left-wingers can rest easy again. We've got a Pride Quarter (area in Hockley), though, and that's ok, apparently.

I always wonder why people need a flag to know they are living in the UK. Surely all of the litter and graffiti would tell them that !
I think the money could be better used in paying for graffiti removal and street cleaning

Bankrupt Birmingham still not emptying all bins pay people to take flags down yet still won't empty the bins. Interestingly Palestinian flags were up for about 2 years and never taken down before the St George flags got put up.

There are times when this forum feels like Groundhog Day.

We had a long, long discussion about those flags not so long ago but here we go again...

Astitchintime What you report about the replacing of frames was not exactly what was reported in the BBC report:

Reform-led Nottinghamshire County Council is to spend £75,000 installing new flags.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdr3npe33do

I haven't seen any official rebuttal of this report.

Why would they be 'divisive flags'. Do you feel intimidated when you visit countries abroad and flags are flown on every building? It is a symbol of pride in their country. When the British do it, it's racist!!

undines I'm British and I don't like to see flags flying - do I get a say? Or is it just "patriots"? Whichever way you look at the issue, flags are divisive. As I wrote before, fly them on your own property or in your car if you want, but don't waste council tax payers' money on them.

Surely I'm right in saying the left wing Birmingham council have spent similar sums taking flags down? I agree, Eazybee, our national flag is not about division and hate and I would hope that all Asian and other immigrants honour this flag and see it as a sign of welcome, a culture to be respectfully integrated with - just as we would feel if we were in, say, Bangladesh