Another stabbing by an immigrant. When do we wake up and smell the coffee?

LadyGracie

Mass deportations, I am not a racist but the majority of these people do not and will not integrate, ever.

You are SO right.

Sago

I would like a simple rule, no papers, no ID then no entry.

Absolutely!!

Of course we have no statistics to show stabbings by immigration status - is this any worse than born-here Brits?

Factors such as class, social standing, and socio-economic background are strongly correlated with violent crimes, (including knife crime) though.

Let's educate people and raise them out of poverty... that should help.

Jane43

GrannyGravy13

Jane43 maybe we should call it a racist incident when a white women is raped by a non-white male?

Both examples are abhorrent no matter how they are described.

On that we agree 👍

GrannyGravy13

Jane43 maybe we should call it a racist incident when a white women is raped by a non-white male?

Both examples are abhorrent no matter how they are described.

GrannyGravy13

Jane43 maybe we should call it a racist incident when a white women is raped by a non-white male?

New rules for Police is now to record ethnicity of the perpetrators.At last!

Allsorts

Exactly Easybee, I think we don’t matter anymore. Woke brigade has stopped any rules or deportations being carried out. They have a lot to answer for. Come here illegally you don't stay here. It is inevitable something really big will kick off as people are angry. It is the main topic of conversation wherever you visit.

Of course it is, and on the news all the time too.It may not be a hot topic in leafy parts of the Shires but it sure is in most places once you get talking to people.

Jane43 maybe we should call it a racist incident when a white women is raped by a non-white male?

Opal

I think you're the one that's missing the point Wyllow3. Obviously crimes are committed by members of the public who are born and bred here - always have, always will be.

BUT - and this IS the point

Why do we continue to provide shelter to asylum seekers and illegal immigrants who break our laws once they're here? Utter madness. We should insist that shelter here is provided ON CONDITION they behave themselves and abide by OUR LAWS and OUR CUSTOMS. In other words, one strike and you're out.

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I read today that military sites are being repurposed, not before time is it? Instead of all the hotel bills with asylum seekers wandering around town centres.

Two women of Indian origin have been raped in the West Midlands in the last month, both incidents are described as racially aggravated. Perhaps we should wake up and smell the coffee about hate and division caused by constant rhetoric relating to immigration.

Due respect, Allsorts, (we meet in another thread)

Where do you go where it is "talked about all the time"

My local Costa coffee where I go? Never to date, and its in a mostly "white" area.

The large gym I am a member of, go a great deal?
Never heard it once in the changing rooms, and I hang out there for natters a lot.

My hairdressers? Never.

Where do you go where it is "talked about all the time"

Wyllow3 you could insert black knife crime, child knife crime, women knife crime in any search engine and get details.

What you cannot do is search migrant knife crime or violence and get an answer, why, because successive governments have not deemed it necessary to record them…

On another note I have just reading "A Short history of England" Guess what? Unless you're a Celt you're probably an immigrant. Roman. Anglo Saxon. Viking. French. Depends how far you want to go back. Added to that, in the past 200 years, Britain invaded and colonised vast tracts of the globe. J7st turned up. Without the right papers or ID. We are pretty blinkered when it comes to judging by our own standards.

I find it difficult to understand the mindset of migrant men, allegedly fleeing violence and who knows what else, that then go on to commit violence on arriving in U.K.

Thank you Wyllow3 for providing the data I couldn’t be bothered to look up, supports both mine and others view.

eazybee

No I have not.

Yes, you have. I was putting stabbings by migrants into context, which is badly needed on threads like this. Fine you don’t agree that was necessary, but don’t misquote the context of what I said.

Exactly Easybee, I think we don’t matter anymore. Woke brigade has stopped any rules or deportations being carried out. They have a lot to answer for. Come here illegally you don't stay here. It is inevitable something really big will kick off as people are angry. It is the main topic of conversation wherever you visit.

No I have not.

BlueBelle

Wyllow3

I think I've entered a parallel universe where crimes like this, sadly not unusual, are only given press interest when it's "an immigrant"

Thank you Wyllow3 exactly what I believe

OMG

eazybee

^However your chance of being stabbed by a migrant rather than by a UK citizen is very small indeed. Reporting in the media distorts the true picture^

Oh, so that's all right then. The same fatuous excuses every time.
I don't know the details of this latest case but I think of the woman in Walsall who was killed by an 'asylum seeker' who watched and followed her from the hotel where she worked and he was accommodated then murdered her brutally with a screwdriver, for no reason at all.

Tell that to her mother and her five year old son.

You have of course misrepresented the context of what I said. Note the sentence before the one you quoted.

Wyllow3

I think I've entered a parallel universe where crimes like this, sadly not unusual, are only given press interest when it's "an immigrant"

Thank you Wyllow3 exactly what I believe

However your chance of being stabbed by a migrant rather than by a UK citizen is very small indeed. Reporting in the media distorts the true picture

Oh, so that's all right then. The same fatuous excuses every time.
I don't know the details of this latest case but I think of the woman in Walsall who was killed by an 'asylum seeker' who watched and followed her from the hotel where she worked and he was accommodated then murdered her brutally with a screwdriver, for no reason at all.

Tell that to her mother and her five year old son.

Interestingly there are no available statistics so we cannot find out if these crimes are disproportionate although I think I am pretty sure they are.

www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/crimesintheukbyraceandimmigrationstatus

growstuff

Sago

I would like a simple rule, no papers, no ID then no entry.

What about stabbers who are born in the UK? There are plenty of them!

I’m referring to immigrants, of course we have plenty of UK citizens committing crime.

Mt61

growstuff

Sago What actions would you like to see politicians to stop it?

Death penalty bringing back

....and what would you do if someone was executed who was found later to be inncocent of the crime they were convicted off.

Do not say it is rare, or wouldn't hppen now. There have been a succession of cases where people have been convicted of murder aand other very serious crimes, and survived to be released when it is proven they are innocent.

You cannot have a death penalty that applies only to illegal immigrants and assylum seekers who kill people.

Is the crome rate among this group any higher than in the population at large or is it just that every case involving illegal immigrants and assylum seekers hits the headlines.