The man formerly known as Prince can fall no further....

Iam64

Annie is it possible given his friendship with Maxwell and Epstein along with his established persona as a Randy man, and his total lack of understanding of the issues surrounding organised child / adolescent sexual abuse, had him lacking in care, assuming these girls were really having a good time. Something they’d been groomed to act.
This is the man who famously said he didn’t see the girls around, he was used to not noticing servants, a similsr thing 🙈

He was a Prince, surely the girls should have been honoured that he wished to have sex with them!!

Was she paid, Anniebach?

She was targeted, seduced, groomed then exploited. These girls were treated to a lavish lifestyle, given cash they ciukd inky dream if. Allegedly 200 dollars to ‘massage’ Epstein, they were othered, treated as special, then humiliated, frightened, groomed, demeaned and had their existing poor self esteem well and truly exploded by the people they thought cared for them
It’s been recorded so iften especially recently with the so called grooming gangs.

Honoured to be used for the sexual gratification of an old sweaty man? What planet do you live on?

I may be misunderstanding keeping quiet but, I’m certain Allira was being ironic

Oh I hope so but you can never tell on here...

Iam there has been so many giving stories to the press.today I listened to an ex security guard of Andrew, staff were treated so badly, such obvious lies .
I don’t know how long he was involved with Epstein , I can understand ,if true, Anne is concerned for his mental health.
Wood and trees !

keepingquiet

Honoured to be used for the sexual gratification of an old sweaty man? What planet do you live on?

……but he can’t sweat ( apparently)🤔

Iam64

I may be misunderstanding keeping quiet but, I’m certain Allira was being ironic

Well of course she was 😄

I do think it’s time tho to leave Andrew alone, he’s sure paid for his mistakes whereas all the other men haven’t!

40 is old !

Annie, can you link us to where you saw proof that the staff are telling obvious lies, please? Or is that speculation?

Doodle yes speculation , did he have a lady in waiting when he was 36?
Was he obnoxious in school, the navy, a working royal etc ?

Sorry Doodle forgot William and Catherine are fearing he could live closer to their little girl

I have no idea about ladies in waiting or William and Catherine's fears. You've lost me there, I'm afraid.

I was asking about how you know the staff are telling lies. If you are offering an opinion based on what you see as the balance of probability, that's fine - that is exactly what the rest of us are doing. It could also be viewed as defaming the staff in question if they are telling the truth, though.

Anniebach

Doodle yes speculation , did he have a lady in waiting when he was 36?
Was he obnoxious in school, the navy, a working royal etc ?

the navy
Arrogant was the word I have heard from a couple of people who served with him in the RN.

I repeated what staff have told newspapers ,

keepingquiet

Honoured to be used for the sexual gratification of an old sweaty man? What planet do you live on?

Oh dear, keepingquiet, yes, it was irony. I thought that was obvious.

However, perhaps AM-W may have thought that, who knows.

Anniebach

I repeated what staff have told newspapers ,

Ah. All the same, how, without the sort of proof you want from anyone criticising Andrew's behaviour, do you know that they are telling obvious lies? Are the staff now being tried by media?

I'm sure you can see what I'm getting at. We all make judgements, and believe some people over others. It doesn't make what we are saying (any of us) 'ridiculous' or anything else. It is just what people do.

Yes Doodle I do see, I really don’t think any person can go from nursery to their 60’s without some kindness in them,

Anniebach

Doodle yes speculation , did he have a lady in waiting when he was 36?
Was he obnoxious in school, the navy, a working royal etc ?

He was obnoxiously rude when he was about 8yo to a family friend of ours. That I can tell you. Unfortunately for AMW, his father overheard and stepped in to demand that A apologise fulsomely or have his ‘backside tanned’.

Anniebach

Yes Doodle I do see, I really don’t think any person can go from nursery to their 60’s without some kindness in them,

No, probably not.

Quote SueDonim Sun 02-Nov-25 00:16:12
Anniebach
Doodle yes speculation , did he have a lady in waiting when he was 36?
Was he obnoxious in school, the navy, a working royal etc ?
He was obnoxiously rude when he was about 8yo to a family friend of ours. That I can tell you. Unfortunately for AMW, his father overheard and stepped in to demand that A apologise fulsomely or have his ‘backside tanned’.

Yes, I can accept that but no one has come forward with any kind words, this isn’t normal

I have never read a good word about the man. Says something. Even his nephew Harry has had a few positive words said about him from time to time.

Then possibly being sexually abused age 11 has so damaged his mind

Anniebach

Yes Doodle I do see, I really don’t think any person can go from nursery to their 60’s without some kindness in them,

Oh I think they can. Not necessarily talking about Andrew, but I do genuinely think there are some people who are just not nice whatsoever, with few if any redeeming qualities.