The man formerly known as Prince can fall no further....

Another thing about that interview was the fact that a recent email showed that he had actually lied about giving up the toxic friendship.
Think that's what tipped the scale this time.

Nobody, that we can see, is standing up for him. in the public domain.

Lord Louis Mountbatten was Prince Philip's uncle.
So it is the same family.
Although the name was Battenberg like the cake when Lord Louis was born.
He was implicated in the abuse of boys from Kincora Boys Home.
Andrew Lownie writes about this in his book on the Mountbattens.

Maremia

Does the fact that so few influential folk are coming forward to speak on his behalf, show how badly he behaved towards those with whom he interacted?

Possibly, but more likely the risk of guilt by association.
Much safer to be on the condemnation side-“we always knew . . . “
Or even safer by staying silent.

Yes, he is naive. Yes he made matters worse by paying her (but that is not unique in trying to close down a debate ) - one wonders if his mother advised that. And he was really stupid to go on TV.

I find it somewhat hypocritcal that:
-the US allow marriage at ages of 14, but not sex until 17?
-that they prosecute prostitutes but assign virtual sainthood to a working prostitute
- that her family are suddenly blameless
-that there must have been any number of influential people at those parties, but we are only hearing them go after one
- that the only "evidence" is a picture ( and there are hundreds of pictures of him with women who stood beside him for a photoshoot), and her word that it was he who was alone in sleeping with her
- he is getting pilloried for trying to find out who put her up to this (whenever have you ever heard of someone giving a voice to a young prostitute over influential folks, however justified)

Much about this stinks

There's a whole gamut of opinions here, from "Off With his Head" to "Innocent Until Proved Guilty".

I must admit I lean more towards carting him off to the Tower. Primarily because of his involvement with the tawdry world of Epstein & Maxwell but also because of all the other shady dealings, the blatant and arrogant misappropriation of public funds and his penchant for the decidedly "dodgy" in the friendship stakes.

I think maybe the pivotal moment was in the Newsnight interview where he made that massively ill judged reply of "still not regretting" his friendship with Epstein. Together with the look of complete derision and disgust on Emily Maitlis' face when he described Epstein's sexually abusive behaviour as "unbecoming". He pretty much sealed his own fate then. (But allegedly thought the interview went rather well).

So, I wonder -

- had he replied differently and expressed his deep regret.
- had he have shown compassion for Epstein's victims - indeed any victims of sexual abuse and trafficking.
-had he perhaps said that he was going to support the Queen Consort's charitable work in that sphere (or indeed Princess Eugenie's - although the organisation of which she is Patron doesn't seem to be overly active).
-had he have said anything in fact that would have demonstrated regret and empathy -

would your opinion of him be different?

I have said it before and I will say it again

Why is it only Andrew M-W’s name that has been made public, why have the other girls (now women) not named the men who they were allegedly forced to entertain, why is he being made the fall guy?

Have this POTUS and previous ones been in collusion to keep the so called Epstein Files secret?

There are so many rumours on the internet, it’s time they were made public to stop the speculation.

Does the fact that so few influential folk are coming forward to speak on his behalf, show how badly he behaved towards those with whom he interacted?

I hope more of them are named WhiteWave, and that justice is served to them.
That's when to come back to question Andrew MW in a court of law.

I am sure that Kate will push him, his ex wife and two daughters further down.

Quote Nano14 Sun 02-Nov-25 15:58:53
Anniebach
The following puzzles me

A man with a massive ego etc . She claims he had sex with her as if it was his birthright, would he accepted she was paid for this?

I doubt it, I've said similar somewhere on the thread.

And she kept the photograph, I see laughter in her eyes, she could not have been trained to control her eyes reaction and the photograph would only have taken seconds

Smileless2012

No it hasn't ViceVersa it's been spelled out over and over again in this thread what people think he's done wrong.

I agree Essexgirl it's a witch hunt and it's horrible.

So you don't think he's actually done anything wrong at all then? Don't get me wrong, I know he hasn't been convicted of any criminal offence, but he's hardly covered himself in glory with the way he's behaved throughout this whole sorry saga, has he?

Peaseblossom Sun 02-Nov-25 15:21:38
Can people please stop using initials, so we can all understand what is being said?!
And while I'm here, many people do not believe Virginia Giuffre killed herself. Neither do I. Why would she after all she had been through and survived?

The poor woman had a lot more in her life than the history of sex at a young age. Her husband had put a restraining order on her blocking access to her children. The death may have been accidental but whatever happened, Andrew can't be responsible for her death. Nobody has said he had sex with children . What I don't understand is why anybody - regardless of who it is - would pay money to somebody without a gagging order. So what was the money for ?

No it hasn't ViceVersa it's been spelled out over and over again in this thread what people think he's done wrong.

I agree Essexgirl it's a witch hunt and it's horrible.

Anniebach

The following puzzles me

A man with a massive ego etc . She claims he had sex with her as if it was his birthright, would he accepted she was paid for this ?

I doubt it, I've said similar somewhere on the thread.

Essexgirl145

I still don't see what he has done wrong, he had sex with a 17 year old girl which is'nt against the law, he's not done anything criminal and he's been charged with nothing, so.....what did he do wrong?, it's a witch hunt and it's horrible.......let him who is without sin.

It has been spelled out over and over again in this thread exactly what he has done wrong.

I still don't see what he has done wrong, he had sex with a 17 year old girl which is'nt against the law, he's not done anything criminal and he's been charged with nothing, so.....what did he do wrong?, it's a witch hunt and it's horrible.......let him who is without sin.

Whitewavemark2

But he did take part in trafficking that is the issue, not her age.

There is no evidence to say he took part in trafficking. Virginia would have been told to 'entertain' him. It's more than possible that he didnt know she was being trafficked. His arrogance would make him believe that she really fancied him. Maybe she did, as her best friend evidenced that she bragged about having slept with the Prince.

He hasn't been charged because the evidence to bring charges isn't there. FGS, some of the responses on here are unbelievable!!!

No. You are right. He hasn't been charged only because he is a royal. The whole thing is a disgrace, as are the pathetic attempts of certain members of the Royal Family to act last minute only to cover their own sorry backsides. Shame on the lot of you

He only has himself to blame , If he had not lied during his interview but told the truth it would have been a lot better for him , but but not being truthful he has to take the consequences

These are well documented FACTS

But your interpretation of those facts seemed a bit vague in this instance!

paddyann

Nothing to do with Lord Louis Mountbatten, if that is who you are referring to.

Prince Philip's surname was Mountbatten, inherited from his British mother after he became a British citizen.
Children usually take on the surname of the father, mother, or very often, both parents.

What do you mean by the RF seem in no doubt WW? No doubt of what?

albertina

It's a shame he can still use the name Mountbatten.

Mountbatten was named in FBI files for being homosexual and having a “perversion for young boys”
This was also known from his time in India when he had young boys brought to his room and up until his death (murder) when he was about to face the scandal of using boys from a children’s home in NI !
Not a relative to be proud of ….seems the apples don’t fall far from the tree!
These are well documented FACTS .

Can people please stop using initials, so we can all understand what is being said?!
And while I'm here, many people do not believe Virginia Giuffre killed herself. Neither do I. Why would she after all she had been through and survived?