Pro Palestinian crowds shrieking and yelling at the Aston Villa Park Stadium

I’m still tending to avoid the news on tv but am I right in thinking there was a lot of noise but no violence?

TV footage only showed the pro Palestinians shouting, the noise was incredible, I felt sorry for the Police there.
Caleo they weren’t football fans making the noise they were locals who went there for the express reason to shout and wave Palestinian flags outside the Villa ground.They were angry that an Israeli team were playing a match there even tho the team had every right to be there.

Whitewavemark2

There were two lots of protesters.

Gaza supporters and Israeli supporters - in fact the Israeli supporters hired flat backed lorries to carry the banners etc.

All seemed peacefully protested. There is always someone who gets carried away though, but on the whole well policed and protested.

The decision to stop the Israeli football fans was a correct one.

I thought all football fans always shouted and enjoyed rowdiness.

Sadly the marches have become a social event for some. Meet with their mates and do a bit is stirring at the same time.

Oreo

The noise from the pro Palestinians was deafening but thanks to a huge police presence just noise.
Think what two years of policing these events have cost our country! France was right to ban any costly and divisive marches there, we should have done the same.

So was their no noise from the pro Israel crowd? Odd if they were silent.

Oreo

Tbh I think they won’t even stop as the peace deal progresses through the different stages and even as Gaza is being rebuilt.

Who for though? - ie the rebuilding.

Cue for watching a video today in gobsmacked astonishment of a group of settlers living there in "caravan" type accommodation very near that Gaza boundary and very confidently asserting they are the ones going to be living in Gaza once it's rebuilt and a 3,000 year old book promised that to them as well (according to them) and they showed no thought or concern whatsoever for the Palestinians living in Gaza - they just want them gone and they don't care how - and they'd probably describe themselves as "nice people". ....!!!

These people will never allow peace - not whilst there is one square foot of land occupied by the rightful owners (ie not them then).

Yes thank you Maremia. How thoughtful of you to ask.

Were your nephews okay at the match?

I am Birmingham born and bred and am still here. I love my city and its people. Yes there are some awful areas as well as some affluent ones, like most cities I imagine.

The city centre around the canal area is beautiful. Villa Park is in a rather rundown area. Most people living there just want a quiet life. I would be willing to bet that half of those demonstrators were rent a mob.

In your own words Oreo, but only if you wish, how would you describe the actions of the people who came to support the Tel Aviv team?
We can all see how you described the pro Palestinia protesters.

Tbh I think they won’t even stop as the peace deal progresses through the different stages and even as Gaza is being rebuilt.

That’s over now, but the divisive hate marches go on and on and on.

Maremia

Wasn't there a report that they were also banned from a derby in Israel.
Sure I read that somewhere.
Now, if that was the case it cannot be antisemitic?

You’re mixing up two things here.
The fans didn’t come from Israel to this match.A few Jewish supporters came from London, and maybe elsewhere and at least one Villa fan wore both the Villa scarf and the Tel Aviv one in solidarity.
The pro Palestinian crowd were yelling at the team as they were furious the match went ahead.

Maremia

Sorry Oreo, but those supporters were banned because of their own actual behaviour while at away games, as reported by the relevant police authorities.

I wasn’t talking of the supporters but the football team who are professional soccer players.

Babs03

Correction - I stand by my assertion.

Just as long as you don’t write it on here again.

Wasn't there a report that they were also banned from a derby in Israel.
Sure I read that somewhere.
Now, if that was the case it cannot be antisemitic?

Sorry Oreo, but those supporters were banned because of their own actual behaviour while at away games, as reported by the relevant police authorities.

Oreo I saw the news item

I agree that politics has no place in sport.

The marches and protests have done untold harm to race/religion matters in this country.To both Jews and Muslims.

Smileless2012

Thank you bmacca it's good to see a post from someone who was actually there especially with such an inflammatory thread title; shrieking and yelling .

Just true, not inflammatory.
Didn’t you hear the racket coming from the crowds waving Palestine flags around 6:30 onwards on tv?
Politics has no place in sport! The Tel Aviv players have nothing to do with either the Israeli government or their army.
Calling them ‘killers’ is both untrue and pathetic.

Thank you bmacca it's good to see a post from someone who was actually there especially with such an inflammatory thread title; shrieking and yelling .

Good to have reporting for us first hand, thank you!

Thanks Maremia. It was a bit of a strange night for sure

Thank you bmacca. Glad you kept safe.

I heard shouting from both groups. Both groups shouted insults at the others. The arrests I saw were from both groups and appeared to be for things that were said but I obviously don’t know the details of exactly what was said