BBC expected to apologise for doctoring Trump videos

I agree 100% with Primrose53 👍

This

“ The veteran BBC Panorama reporter John Ware has been using the archives of the Daily Telegraph—the paper which has accused the BBC of “materially misleading” editing—to demonstrate a degree of hypocrisy.
He quotes the Telegraph’s own chief reporter, Robert Mendick, on 7th January 2021: “Trump threw on the whole, messy heap a burning match. And throughout the day he kept throwing on more. A clenched fist, and a call for action.”
Ware moves onto the former prime minister as quoted in the Telegraph on 8th January: “BORIS JOHNSON has ‘unreservedly condemned’ Donald Trump for encouraging protesters [Ware’s emphasis] who stormed the Capitol building in Washington DC. The Prime Minister said the US president had been ‘completely wrong’ to cast doubt on the outcome of the election and to encourage the ‘disgraceful’ behaviour that resulted in four deaths…”
Then Ware quotes the Telegraph’s own columnist Ambrose Evans-Pritchard on 8th January: “The putsch has failed….the desecration of Capitol Hill by Trump mobs—on explicit incitement by the president [his emphasis]—speaks for itself.”
For good measure, he adds the Telegraph’s own Ben Riley-Smith on 13th January, referring to Trump’s “incendiary speech to supporters” prior to the “mob that stormed the US Capitol last week”.
It would be amusing for the BBC to use the Telegraph’s own reporting to bolster the case that Trump did, indeed, bear significant responsibility for the carnage that followed his speech. Indeed, numerous rioters subsequently testified that they had been motivated by Trump’s words.
All in all, Trump doesn’t have much of a case and if BBC chair Samir Shah has any sense, he’ll announce that not a penny of licence fee payers’ money will go to furnishing the Donald J Trump Library.
Show the Americans what a British backbone is made of! Show weaselly US broadcasters how it’s done! Even Nigel Farage should cheer that on”

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Rushbridger

Galaxy

They are also left wing feminists and lgb groups but don't let that worry anyone.

Also a whole host of other pressure groups, disabled, policing, environmental, and still find money to expand the economy.

Whitewavemark2

This

“ The veteran BBC Panorama reporter John Ware has been using the archives of the Daily Telegraph—the paper which has accused the BBC of “materially misleading” editing—to demonstrate a degree of hypocrisy.
He quotes the Telegraph’s own chief reporter, Robert Mendick, on 7th January 2021: “Trump threw on the whole, messy heap a burning match. And throughout the day he kept throwing on more. A clenched fist, and a call for action.”
Ware moves onto the former prime minister as quoted in the Telegraph on 8th January: “BORIS JOHNSON has ‘unreservedly condemned’ Donald Trump for encouraging protesters [Ware’s emphasis] who stormed the Capitol building in Washington DC. The Prime Minister said the US president had been ‘completely wrong’ to cast doubt on the outcome of the election and to encourage the ‘disgraceful’ behaviour that resulted in four deaths…”
Then Ware quotes the Telegraph’s own columnist Ambrose Evans-Pritchard on 8th January: “The putsch has failed….the desecration of Capitol Hill by Trump mobs—on explicit incitement by the president [his emphasis]—speaks for itself.”
For good measure, he adds the Telegraph’s own Ben Riley-Smith on 13th January, referring to Trump’s “incendiary speech to supporters” prior to the “mob that stormed the US Capitol last week”.
It would be amusing for the BBC to use the Telegraph’s own reporting to bolster the case that Trump did, indeed, bear significant responsibility for the carnage that followed his speech. Indeed, numerous rioters subsequently testified that they had been motivated by Trump’s words.
All in all, Trump doesn’t have much of a case and if BBC chair Samir Shah has any sense, he’ll announce that not a penny of licence fee payers’ money will go to furnishing the Donald J Trump Library.
Show the Americans what a British backbone is made of! Show weaselly US broadcasters how it’s done! Even Nigel Farage should cheer that on”

Prospect
Rushbridger

When you say "this", does that mean you agree with every word of what you posted?

Personally, if I want to read an article from elsewhere I would.

Most times, [not all], I come onto this forum to read the thoughts of other people.
Not newspaper articles.
Or links come to that.
But I have been known myself to link to something or other.

personally I am ok with a back up link. Sometimes.

And yes, this is all my own thoughts.

David49-"And BBC supporters should also be challenged on their political stance".

Why? And what is your criteria for a "BBC supporter" anyway?

There are Gransnetters that are posting on this issue NOT from any party political stance- using facts and evidence base in posts, from a stance aiming to be measured, fair and rational, none partisan, proportional and intentionally NONE political on this BBC issue.

The OP contends that the BBC has always been bias and corrupt. You seem to be suggesting that any one who posts with a different view is a "BBC supporter" and you who even further to state their political views should be challenged. Just why?

Does anyone know who Robbie Gibb is, and why it is suggested he should be ousted from the BBC?
Online petition.

Gibb's appointment to the BBC board was supported by The Conservative Party political advisor who according to the press "pressed for months" for Gibb to become part of the BBC Board. He has current accusers calling for him to be removed for pushing claims of BBC institutional bias from his own biased perspective. The BBC chair Shah refutes the claim of institutional bias.

Gibb was the Downing Street Director of Communications and worked for Teresa May, Conservative PM. I understand he is friends with Michael Prescott. Precott is a political right wing lobbyist, and was appointed to his BBC advisory position under the influence of Gibb.

Reported 11/11/25 Prescott's company is being paid 100s of thousands dollars by US tech and media giants with close ties to Trump- to whom they have devoted millions of dollars.

“David49-"And BBC supporters should also be challenged on their political stance".

Why? And what is your criteria for a "BBC supporter" anyway?”

Because I believe that the BBC has a liberal leftist editorial bias supporters would want that to continue, and there are plenty of liberal leftists on GN.

Shock horror LemonJam
Reported by whom? Evidence?
Name of company etc

Okay it’s the Byeline Times article?

Maremia

Does anyone know who Robbie Gibb is, and why it is suggested he should be ousted from the BBC?
Online petition.

Gibb was the Campbell equivalent employed by May.

Can you imagine if Campbell had been given the same post😀😀 the right wing would have had a heart attack.

He needs to go because if his publicly announced bias.

Typo Byline… if only the same energy could be applied to exposing the editor of the spliced tapes.

And look at lemonjams post - good lot of info there.

I am quite happy to list the previous appointments on the board that have strong links to the labour party.

fancythat

personally I am ok with a back up link. Sometimes.

And yes, this is all my own thoughts.

Unless you are a Prospect subscriber a back up link wouldn't have helped as it is paywalled.

Articles are 'other people's thoughts' too. At least the source of the extract was acknowledged, which is more than happens usually.

Always supposing one can do links😄😄

It is always useful to see what commentators are saying we don’t operate in a vacuum on GN, and our opinion is always influenced by others. So what others are saying is therefore very relevant.

David49- 10.57. I respect your opinion of BbC liberal leftist bias and your conflation that anyone who holds liberal leftist views this would “support” the BBC.

I have no high regard for Bsdenoch, Farage, Starmer, Davey or Polanski. I do not need any political party or ideology to inform or shape my considerations whether the BBC is corrupted or institutionally biased. I am able to think for myself.

Maremia

Does anyone know who Robbie Gibb is, and why it is suggested he should be ousted from the BBC?
Online petition.

Robbie Gibb has been in focus for quite a while. As Wwmk2 points out, he was Theresa May's equivalent of Alistair Campbell.

He was, for a while, editorial advisor and fund raiser for GB News while it was being set up. That was in 2020. GB News is financed by right winger Paul Marshall and by the right wing Legatum Group, a subsidiary of the Legatum Institute which wrote Project 2025, the playbook which Donald Trump is held to be following.

Also in 2020 he led a consortium fundraising to purchase the Jewish Chronical and, once it was purchased he was the only named director on Companies House filings. He resigned from the board in 2024. Gibb didn't declare his interest in the JC until 2023. It is noted that the matter of who actually owns the JC remains unknown.

In 2021 he was appointed to his BBC post by Johnson, who was then PM.

Ronib, I have been fascinated to read how other countries are reporting on this issue of alleged institutional bias and views on Trump threatening to sue. Yes that is one article.

Galaxy

I am quite happy to list the previous appointments on the board that have strong links to the labour party.

Please do.

These are some of the appointments made at the BBC in the past.
Gavyn Davies - labour donor and advisor - chaired BBC board of governors
Greg Dyke - labour donor - became director general
Michael lyons - ex labour council leader - chaired BBC trust
James Purnell - ex labour mp became director of strategy and digital at the BBC.
There have always been high level appointments at the BBC that have a particular political viewpoint, that is in my view absolutely fine. However if it isn't fine for Gibb it can't be fine for the rest of them.
The research above is Andrew Neils rather than my own, I am sure he will be deemed of the wrong politely persuasion as well.

Political not politely

As I posted on the other BBC thread

the bottom line is the Beeb has breached the rules of its charter on more than one occasion, and it has been brought out in the open

People seem more concerned about the whistleblower than the fact that the BBC has been found to be less than truthful?

👏👏👏 GrannyGravy so true