BBC expected to apologise for doctoring Trump videos

What a shame. I used to love the BBC, it was something reliable and trustworthy. Things have obviously changed for the worse - splicing a video like that would have been unheard of not so long ago.

The right wing bias of the BBC has damaged our politics. It's relentless promotion of Farage and his "party" is disgraceful. In the years running up to 2016 Farage appeared on Question Time 29 times.

Just compare the amount of BBC coverage give to Farage and his 4 MPs with the time they give to Sir Ed Davey who has 72 LibDem MPs.

Tim Davie’s salary as DG at the BBC was £540,000 p.a.
Crikey.
No wonder he hung on.
Mind you he’ll be given a golden handshake, doubtless. A fancy package of some sort.
Out of our licence money?

MaizieD

^GB News has been voted best news channel for the 4th consecutive month beating BBC, Sky etc.^

By whom?

www.barb.co.uk/

Don’t know why I’m bothering actually as you will just pick holes in it.

I have been flicking through all the channels this morning and the BBC is the main topic. It seems that the majority of people on all channels are very disappointed in the BBC and all the coverups that have taken place. The lists just go on and on as people remember past failures of the BBC. Even Jeremy Vine, who has made millions out of the BBC, is agreeing with callers.

GB News has been voted best news channel for the 4th consecutive month beating BBC, Sky etc.

By whom?

Kandinsky

This is a shame really as I grew up thinking you could trust BBC news.
Clearly not.
And people moan about GB news.

GB News has been voted best news channel for the 4th consecutive month beating BBC, Sky etc.

Whitewavemark2

I note that the Telegraph editor is triumphantly tooting that Trump has thanked them for attacking the BBC.

Surprise, surprise!!!

And thanks for your excellent post above WW (8.39) - astute, thoughtful and measured, unlike some of the ‘oo, shock, horror’ hyperbole posts currently swirling around.

Oreo

Woke has gone way past what it meant originally and has expanded to accept all kinds of craziness.Schools aiding and abetting any furries in their midst for one.😬

👏👏👏

Woke has gone way past what it meant originally and has expanded to accept all kinds of craziness.Schools aiding and abetting any furries in their midst for one.😬

Pro Hamas, anti Israel, single sex marriage, anti Trump, anti wealth, pro climate change, pro abortion, anti Christianity…. Children changing gender identity… is this woke?

Maremia

What is a 'woke'?

It’s people who have views that Boz doesn't approve of, I would guess?

What is a 'woke'?

Can the woke incompetent board also now resign?

Editing is probably the overall process.
Splicing is done by a technician, at the behest probs of the Editor or Director

ronib

And exactly who is the unfortunate editor or team of editors involved in the splicing of the Trump film? Were they freelance? On whose authority, if any was the alteration agreed? How often does this happen one wonders?

I would like to know all this too.

And especially the bit about how often this happens.

Surely editing is entirely different to spling and doctoring?

I simply can't imagine how difficult the job is, fighting institutionalized bias at all levels in a huge corporation. I do have some sympathy for him.

Mollygo

True. Only 86% of the license fee goes to the BBC.

At 01.59

Thank you WhiteWave. The fact that The Telegraph and Johnson are the 'cheer leaders' has significance.

Oh the irony. Johnson leading a campaign to get at the truth!

Excellent post at 8.39, Wwmk2. 👏👏👏

Oreo

MaizieD

Oreo

The BBC hasn’t helped itself in recent years and may well lose its place, the licence fee is very expensive and many people don’t watch it or use the radio either.
It’s a great shame because at least up to recent times it’s been a national treasure.It really must get its house in order now.

It has been explained several times on this thread that the Television licence is not a licence specific to the BBC.

It is a licence for the device which receives television broadcasts. Broadcasts from any of the available channels. The clue is in the name. It is a television licence, not a BBC licence.

The government website tells one exactly that.

www.gov.uk/find-licences/tv-licence

I’m finding it faintly amusing that all these rigid defenders of the need for absolute truth are refusing to recognise the truth about the licence fee.

Most of the money collected by tv licensing goes to the BBC .
If anyone is interested just google ‘ who gets the money for the tv licence’.
I find it faintly amusing that you didn’t know the money was almost all given to the BBC.

Where the money ends up is completely irrelevant. Knowing what I do about government finance I strongly suspect that what you belive is just an accounting fiction, anyway.

But the fact, truth, call it what you will, is that it is your TV set that is being licensed.

The BBC will have to stop acting like the TV arm of the Guardian.

I note that the Telegraph editor is triumphantly tooting that Trump has thanked them for attacking the BBC.

Reading this thread I have come to a number of conclusions, but first I would like to my two-penn’oth worth into the fray, largely entirely swimming against the thread tide.

The resignations - (whilst I might welcome Davies resignation for different reasons) were entirely unnecessary. The leaked memo - should have undoubtedly been dealt with in May when the person/company responsible for the panorama programme should have taken the flak from the inevitable fallout, although even that could have been avoided if at the start of the programme, -which was about the violence and Trumps hand in it - they had explain that some stuff had been edited. Panorama is not a news programme and it’s content therefore was subject to the type of editing anyone would expect.

In my opinion much of the criticism is certainly politically and rival media motivated as can be seen by the evidence put forward by the spokespersons for the Telegraph, GB News etc. on this thread.

It is no coincidence that the BBC s charter renewal is about to go under scrutiny, and if one looks back each time this has happened in recent years there is an almighty pushback from media rivals who dish the dirt. Their preference is for the destruction of the BBC entirely in its present form. A move imo of such philistinism and idiocy it is breathtaking.

Lastly i think everyone is aware of Trumps opinion of the BBC and his intent to control the media content in the USA and now apparently the BBC, as I have no doubt that alongside other stuff this move by the BBC is appeasement in order that it continues with its lucrative market in the USA .

Saying all that I know that nothing is perfect and the BBC should come under particularly close scrutiny because of its place in British society. I am always annoyed at the level of airtime Farage is given compared to the other smaller political parties for example.
In view if the upcoming renewal of the charter, I think that now would be a good time to re-think exactly what we all want from the BBC.

Of course there is bias in other television output just as there is amongst the other media output. But I think that the BBC whilst subject to a lot of OTT hyperbole at the moment, has on the whole kept to its stated standards.

MaizieD

Oreo

The BBC hasn’t helped itself in recent years and may well lose its place, the licence fee is very expensive and many people don’t watch it or use the radio either.
It’s a great shame because at least up to recent times it’s been a national treasure.It really must get its house in order now.

It has been explained several times on this thread that the Television licence is not a licence specific to the BBC.

It is a licence for the device which receives television broadcasts. Broadcasts from any of the available channels. The clue is in the name. It is a television licence, not a BBC licence.

The government website tells one exactly that.

www.gov.uk/find-licences/tv-licence

I’m finding it faintly amusing that all these rigid defenders of the need for absolute truth are refusing to recognise the truth about the licence fee.

Most of the money collected by tv licensing goes to the BBC .
If anyone is interested just google ‘ who gets the money for the tv licence’.
I find it faintly amusing that you didn’t know the money was almost all given to the BBC.