BBC expected to apologise for doctoring Trump videos

Rosie51

DaisyAnneReturns

I do wonder if those who support and repeat the lies which are propoganda counter to our countries well being, are not following in the footsteps of someone like James Joyce? We may not seem to be recognisably at war but just as the "Cold War" did not escalate into direct, full-scale war Trump seems to be pursuing both a cultural and economic war against previous allies.

Surely you mean William Joyce aka Lord Haw-Haw, or are you deliberately smearing the renowned poet? Accuracy is very important as you've just (I think) demonstrated.

You can't hear me laughing - at myself! You are quite right, of course.

ronib

As much as I dislike Starmer, I wouldn’t like foreign news outlets to fabricate stories about him. It’s unacceptable for the BBC to interfere in the affairs of another country by spreading misinformation and why do they?

Did it actually misinform the BBC audience or did it do what they are meant to do and promote discussion. Looking at this thread, my guess would be the latter.

Galaxy

Not supporting the BBC isn't supporting Trump, they are different things.

Possibly, if you point out where I said that not supporting the BBC is the same as supporting Trump. On the other hand, I think I'll just use my mental "ignore" button. Have a good day!

DaisyAnneReturns

I do wonder if those who support and repeat the lies which are propoganda counter to our countries well being, are not following in the footsteps of someone like James Joyce? We may not seem to be recognisably at war but just as the "Cold War" did not escalate into direct, full-scale war Trump seems to be pursuing both a cultural and economic war against previous allies.

Surely you mean William Joyce aka Lord Haw-Haw, or are you deliberately smearing the renowned poet? Accuracy is very important as you've just (I think) demonstrated.

Casdon

Galaxy

Many people are excusing lies from the BBC because of their hatred for Trump, it is a rabbit hole as well of course.

Very few people have done that. Very few people want to see lies perpetrated by the media, and don’t except the BBC from that. I object strongly to people making that assumption.

So do I. I feel that the BBC should and has apologised and resignations have happened. Sadly Robbie Gibbs is still there but I am hopeful he can be disposed of. It's now descended into a right wing Farage inspired witch hunt that will only be assuaged by the complete loss of the BBC. Well count me out on that.

Galaxy

Many people are excusing lies from the BBC because of their hatred for Trump, it is a rabbit hole as well of course.

Very few people have done that. Very few people want to see lies perpetrated by the media, and don’t except the BBC from that. I object strongly to people making that assumption.

As much as I dislike Starmer, I wouldn’t like foreign news outlets to fabricate stories about him. It’s unacceptable for the BBC to interfere in the affairs of another country by spreading misinformation and why do they?

I so agree Galaxy

Many people are excusing lies from the BBC because of their hatred for Trump, it is a rabbit hole as well of course.

DaisyAnneReturns

I do wonder if those who support and repeat the lies which are propoganda counter to our countries well being, are not following in the footsteps of someone like James Joyce? We may not seem to be recognisably at war but just as the "Cold War" did not escalate into direct, full-scale war Trump seems to be pursuing both a cultural and economic war against previous allies.

Exactly this. I think many people have been sucked down rabbit holes and I don't think they know how to get out. I can't believe they are all just bad.

It is an opinion that the earth is flat, I wouldn't rely on a news source that reported that as fact.

Could you point out where I said that daisy.

I do wonder if those who support and repeat the lies which are propoganda counter to our countries well being, are not following in the footsteps of someone like James Joyce? We may not seem to be recognisably at war but just as the "Cold War" did not escalate into direct, full-scale war Trump seems to be pursuing both a cultural and economic war against previous allies.

You wouldn't have to agree with the BBC's stance Casdon the suggestion is that we would/should only be allowed to hear Galaxy's opinion.

Casdon

Galaxy

They described a man who assaulted children as a woman. I don't want my money to support that abusive 'flat earth' reporting.

Are you saying that you don’t want the full gamut of services provided by the BBC to no longer be publicly supported because you disagree with their stance on one subject? I’d never watch or listen to anything on any channel again if I had to agree with their stance on everything they reported.

Actually, isn't it part of the BBC's charter to present differing views?

I know not everybody reads before they reply, but I didn't actually say that not supporting the BBC is supporting Trump.

But why does he do this? Why does he lie as easily as blinking? I know he despises the London Mayor, Sadiq Khan and has made up so much stuff about London. I’ve just spent several days there - Kew, the tube, the V&A. I had a lovely, safe time. The whole of trump’s administration need to be called out for their lies. The problem is that if a representative of a media organisation call him out on anything, he simply looses it and calls them nasty or worse. I am afraid he makes me ill. I could go on, but I won’t. All reasonable people know what he’s like.

How many outright lies has Trump told about the UK - about its lawlessness, the dangers of visiting London, the implementation within our legal system of Sharia Law, etc, etc. I even recall footage of rioting being attributed to the UK, when in fact it transpired that it occurred in another country. But, of course, he has the money, and the backing from wealthy people, to tie organisations and individuals up in extremely time-consuming and very expensive legal proceedings, knowing that such organisations and individuals do not have the vast resources to adequately defend themselves. He has already silenced many of his critics.

Each to their own I guess. I think the BBC is so much more than just news. I never have trusted any single channel or other media outlet on news, they all have bias and get things wrong, I think the baby could be thrown out with the bath water if everybody thought like you do.

Yes. How could I trust their reporting on say the middle east when they would report that nonsense. In one sense the subject matter is irrelevant, they could have embraced the ideology that the earth was flat and it would have had the sane impact.
The only BBC programming I regularly consume is the archers, I seem to be surviving.

Galaxy

They described a man who assaulted children as a woman. I don't want my money to support that abusive 'flat earth' reporting.

Are you saying that you don’t want the full gamut of services provided by the BBC to no longer be publicly supported because you disagree with their stance on one subject? I’d never watch or listen to anything on any channel again if I had to agree with their stance on everything they reported.

They described a man who assaulted children as a woman. I don't want my money to support that abusive 'flat earth' reporting.

I can't understand why anybody in the UK would want to see the end of the BBC.

Can somebody please explain more explicitly than "They were in the wrong and they have made mistakes in the past." Or "They have become a hotbed of left wing politics." Or even "They pandered to the wokey extremists."

You probably have reasons that go beyond the above and Trump's views. Please share them.

Different, but related, things. More people who want to abolish the BBC support Trump than people who don’t. Not supporting the actions of the BBC on this particular issue is common to most people, but supporting Trump’s actions in suing is a subset of that.

Not supporting the BBC isn't supporting Trump, they are different things.