BBC expected to apologise for doctoring Trump videos

On second thoughts we’re in White Witch mode?

Well I bet Narnia isn’t coming to the Uk? Casdon

ronib

I didn’t think for a minute that J D Vance had such a dysfunctional family upbringing. Perhaps it’s only America with opportunities for such huge upward mobility?

No, it’s Narnia.

Aside from the Trump Spliced/speech debacle, there was an article in yesterday's ST entitled "Emails reveal BBC Women Complained over trans reporting" highlighting the BBC's hard line approach to the subject mostly at odds with the mood of women generally about the issue and certainly, I imagine, their stance wouldn't be a surprise to many on this site.

Some of the main points:

"Martine Croxall had been found to have breached impartiality guidelines when she appeared faintly exasperated after correcting "pregnant people" on her autocue to "women".

That it was felt that the BBC had been "captured" by activists promoting a "pro trans agenda" to the detriment of women's rights is one of the criticisms in the memo that helped precipitate the resignations of Davie and his news chief executive Deborah Turness. In this document sent to the BBC board last month, Michael Prescott former journalist claimed that the specialist "LGBT and identity" desk had effectively censored stories that "raised difficult questions about the trans debate" He accused the desk of "a constant drip feed of one sided stories.....celebrating trans experience without adequate balance or objectivity" Women within the BBC have been making that case for several years. More than a dozen emails dating back to 2020 seen by the ST show that female staff raised a catalogue of complaints with executives that were rebuffed or ignored. Their objections ranged from stories that referred to biologically male transgender sex offenders as women to articles that avoided using the words "girls" and "women" when discussing menstruation and birth control. The women also described a culture of fear where even seasoned correspondents did not dare veer from the Stonewall-mandated position on trans issues in case they were accused of "transphobia". They added that the BBC ignored stories that could be deemed critical of the trans gender movement, even when they were covered by rival news outlets. One BBC worker said: "Any questioning or insufficiently enthusiastic championing risked being labelled as bigoted.....It felt like activism, not news" The article went on to state "Samantha Smith a former editor of the southwest edition of Inside Out spoke up about the reporting of Karen White, a prisoner who was biologically male, but identified as transgender and sexually assaulted two inmates at a women's prison. Smith who left the BBC in 2020 felt that the broadcaster should have reported that White was a man but when she raised this in a meeting of senior managers was told: "Trans women are women" She felt that the undercurrent of this statement was that she was a "bigot" who needed to be "re-educated" However, the article does go on to suggest that there has been a shift in a more sympathetic stance towards women in an interview with the Darlington nurses who were protesting against a transgender colleague's use of their changing rooms. It described the colleague as a "biological male" a significant linguistic change.

I didn’t think for a minute that J D Vance had such a dysfunctional family upbringing. Perhaps it’s only America with opportunities for such huge upward mobility?

DaisyAnneReturns

So the man who started off James Donald Bowman has, as I understand it changed his name three times. It seems he is also prepared to change his politics just as often.

I think his name was changed due to his family history, from his original name to his step-father's name when he was adopted by him then, after his mother and step-father's divorce, chose Vance after his grandparents.

It seems to have been rather an unstable upbringing until his grandparents became his carers.

So the man who started off James Donald Bowman has, as I understand it changed his name three times. It seems he is also prepared to change his politics just as often.

Vance is a massive danger to sofas everywhere.

He’s worse than Trump.

Vance gives me the creeps. There is something deeply unpleasant about him.

Vance does not seem to have the same 'charisma' as Trump.
Republicans probably aren't as scared of him, nasty though he is.
Does the MAGA mob love him in the same way?
The real question is, do bullies back off, when you bully back?

IOMGran

Gravy, everything is edited as things have to fit into a time slot. It's pretty foolish to expect everything to be broadcast in it's entirety. You can freely access Trumps speech in full if you want. Here's a transcript for you. He's unhinged and inciting a riot.

www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

So the slot is more important than accuracy, I think not

I think most of us on GN have a negative view of Trump, I certainly do, but he is an a position of power we can’t break off contact so we have to play along with him.

One horrible thought bugs me, if somehow Trump gets impeached we get Vance instead, which is not a great option.

The BBC will have brought about its own downfall, I suspect Trump will not go ahead, but I think whatever happens, this is the beginning of the end of the BBC in its current format.

I would hate it if Trump sued the BBC out of existence. The BBC led the world in the development of broadcasting.

I am not saying that mistakes haven't been made. The BBC does not have an unblemished record free from bias and scandal but is it really possible that a mad megalomaniac like Trump can destroy the BBC? I hope not.

BBC broadcasting has been part of life in the UK and shaped our culture in wartime and peacetime for over 100 years.

Yes, Allira...and the question is, did he mean to encourage the insurrection?

Good editing keeps the meaning absolutely clear.

Even US news media edit his speeches...

IOMGran

Gravy, everything is edited as things have to fit into a time slot. It's pretty foolish to expect everything to be broadcast in it's entirety. You can freely access Trumps speech in full if you want. Here's a transcript for you. He's unhinged and inciting a riot.

www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

I have heard the speech in full, thank you.

I am aware that editing goes on.

Whether we like it or not the editing did change his speech.

I am neither a fan of POTUS Trump, nor do I wish to see the end of the BBC.

I hope that his claim gets thrown out of court.

And to those demanding Trump be given massive damages by the BBC, where the F do you think that money will come from???

Gravy, everything is edited as things have to fit into a time slot. It's pretty foolish to expect everything to be broadcast in it's entirety. You can freely access Trumps speech in full if you want. Here's a transcript for you. He's unhinged and inciting a riot.

www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

AGAA4

Trump has successfully gagged any news in the US that is detrimental to him. He wants to do the same here and some people are cheering him on. They don't seem to realise that the Trump regime wants to manipulate the news here to our detrimental.
Think what rubbish Vance and Musk have said about the UK.

Unfortunately the BBC has played right into his hands.

They have admitted that his speech was edited 🤷‍♀️

Our detriment*

Trump has successfully gagged any news in the US that is detrimental to him. He wants to do the same here and some people are cheering him on. They don't seem to realise that the Trump regime wants to manipulate the news here to our detrimental.
Think what rubbish Vance and Musk have said about the UK.

Cheered on by our very own right wingers, who cover themselves in the flag at every opportunity. They should be open and show the stars and stripes.

Not insane but very manipulative, he knows exactly what he’s doing, and why he’s doing it, enemies have given him a lot of grief, now he is giving it back.