Was the Britain we have today worth all the sacrifices made in WW2?

StoneofDestiny

Wise words

How profound 🤣

Maremia

Laurence Fox claimed that Zarah Sultana had 'no right to wear' her poppy.

What the hell🙈

I had to check this as it seemed unbelievable (sorry Maremia). It’s true!

Just when you thought some in the public eye couldn’t sink any lower …

Well
Look at Lawrence Fox and the people he admires

Wise words

StoneofDestiny

*They will obviously be more white as more of the population is white!*

And the overwhelming majority of Muslims do not stab people in the neck! Seriously - get a grip of your undisguised racism

Do you think I dont know that the majority of Muslims dont stab people in the neck!

Your ‘undisguised racism’ comment is hilarious. Its a lazy accusation against those of us genuinely concerned about our country.

Laurence Fox claimed that Zarah Sultana had 'no right to wear' her poppy.

Agree with you about the NAZI s Oreo.

They will obviously be more white as more of the population is white!

And the overwhelming majority of Muslims do not stab people in the neck! Seriously - get a grip of your undisguised racism

Google is your friend

GOV.UK 15,594 Muslim prisoners in England and Wales of September 2024, accounting for 18% of all inmates despite comprising only 6.5% of the population.

Approximately 12% of U.K. prison population consist of foreign nationals, around 10,700 as of September 2025.

StoneofDestiny

*Hasnt a young woman just been knifed in the neck randomly. Look up the name of the attacker stoneofdestiny.*

That’s a comment worthy of Farage and Yaxley Lennon! You do know Myra Hindley, Fred and Rose West, Jimmy Saville etc were not Muslim - they made the streets unsafe! Have a look at the population of prisons and the ethnicity of mass murderers - you will find a majority white and not Muslim.

They will obviously be more white as more of the population is white!

Hasnt a young woman just been knifed in the neck randomly. Look up the name of the attacker stoneofdestiny.

That’s a comment worthy of Farage and Yaxley Lennon! You do know Myra Hindley, Fred and Rose West, Jimmy Saville etc were not Muslim - they made the streets unsafe! Have a look at the population of prisons and the ethnicity of mass murderers - you will find a majority white and not Muslim.

I never see Muslims wearing a poppy and we have quite a large Muslim population in my town.

I live in an overwhelmingly white British area and I haven't seen many of them wearing poppies, either. It's not obligatory nor is it an any way 'unpatriotic' not to wear one.

I too think the comment that this country is no longer safe for women and children is ridiculous and just winds up and stresses people.Perhaps that's why it is said .
I do think that we do need to improve vastly the care , help and treatment for those with mental illness. This Care in the Community does not work and little is said about it.

Somebody said earlier on in this post that we shouldn't forget that 1.5 million Muslims died fighting for the allied forces in WW2...Just an observation I made at the Cenotaph on Sunday in my home town only 4 Muslims attended and they were there because our Mayor is a Muslim. Maybe the Muslims have forgotten that..apart from the people mentioned above I never see Muslims wearing a poppy and we have quite a large Muslim population in my town.

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this country is no longer safe for women and children

Ridiculous comment. You are more likely to be attacked if you are male. The area and the environment are big factors as in ANY country but to conclude the whole country is not safe is just absurd

A PRAYER walk was held in Hyde Park, London, on Friday to “reclaim” the Christian symbol of St George’s flag by remembering people born in other countries who fought for, contributed to, and “enriched” Britain.

The former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Williams was among the bishops, clergy, and lay people to join the walk, which paused at the Commonwealth Memorial Gates. This commemorates the men and women from the Indian subcontinent, Africa, the Caribbean, and other Commonwealth countries who died in the Second World War. A large cross of woven red poppies and roses was held in front of one of the memorials at this site in remembrance of those who sacrificed their lives. Against the white memorial stone, this made the shape of a St George’s flag.

Holly-Anna Petersen, who attended the walk, said: “The act of creating the St George’s flag in this way was done to reclaim the flag as an inclusive symbol for Britain, and to ensure that, as a Christian emblem, it reflects the Christian principle of loving thy neighbour.”

Lord Williams said: “It is more than time to challenge the story that every migrant approaching our shores is an unfriendly alien with unintelligible and hostile values. It is essential for us to see, not enemy invaders, but vulnerable people like us, committed to finding safety for themselves and those they love. It is the height of injustice to hold communities responsible for the crimes of individuals and to market lazy, hurtful, stereotypes.”

He continued: “Christian culture, about which we hear so much from some quarters, is based simply on the recognition that we share common human needs and that we are given strength and generosity in Christ’s Spirit to serve those needs wherever they appear, and to welcome the gifts that strangers offer us.”

Some of the Christians involved in the prayer walk were founding members of the newly formed voluntary group Christians for a Welcoming Britain, which highlights these Christian values. Some walkers reflected on the growing inequality in the UK

The Vicar of St Peter and St Paul’s, Chaldon, the Revd Helen Burnett, said: “A small number of mega-rich people are amassing ever-increasing fortunes, which is draining the country, leaving everyday people struggling to make ends meet. It’s immoral that we are seeing migrants used as scapegoats for this and being blamed for the lack of public funds resulting from years of deliberate austerity.

“Asylum seekers did not create this crisis; their plight has been manipulated to vilify them, when the fact is that they are struggling for a decent life like everyone else.”

The Bishop of Croydon, Dr Rosemarie Mallett, agreed. She said: “We are living in very trying times, and the cost-of-living crisis is not abating. . . All too often the media focus is on migration, while the root causes remain unaddressed.”

She concluded: “We must reject any narrative that says the cross is a symbol of exclusion. The cross calls us to a life of love and sacrifice.”

Anyway, as today is the 11th day of the 11th month I will reiterate that yes, the sacrifices that brave Service men and women made was worth it.The messes that politicians made will be hard to undo in our countries but the evil of the Nazis just had to be overcome.

I have to say that being spat at in that way did make me cross the street if I saw a group of young Asian men approaching but one man on his own never acted in that way and neither did a group of older Asian men, it was the younger ones, teenagers through to around 30.I don’t know why this should be the case with some of the younger ones.

Teazel2

windmill1

No, this country is no longer safe for women and children.

I've had "white whore" shouted at me by a bunch of men who - judging by looks - were Asian.

This is modern Britain.

Thank you. That really justifies my mosque comment. We should not be tolerating this in our own country. Suppose we went to a country with different values and started behaving like this?

I have been spat at by young Asian men in the street, more than once and in the daytime when out shopping and on my way to work in the evening.Thankfully we moved out of our longtime home in London and it hasn’t happened since.

nanna8

People have their heads in the sand. They want everything to be sunshine and roses and maybe,one day, they will be. Just not right now. Too hard to admit when you live in a nice middle class area ?

That’s exactly it.
If you live in very pleasant leafy surroundings it’s hard to know what other people have to put up with where they live.

Sadly. I have to agree with you Chocolatelovinggran. Some, not all.

Sadly, a world where women are safe from predatory men has never existed, and, I fear, never will.
It's some men, not all, of course, but ..

People have their heads in the sand. They want everything to be sunshine and roses and maybe,one day, they will be. Just not right now. Too hard to admit when you live in a nice middle class area ?

windmill1

No, this country is no longer safe for women and children.

I've had "white whore" shouted at me by a bunch of men who - judging by looks - were Asian.

This is modern Britain.

Thank you. That really justifies my mosque comment. We should not be tolerating this in our own country. Suppose we went to a country with different values and started behaving like this?