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Yet another unknowing mistake

(19 Posts)
Mollygo Sun 09-Nov-25 19:05:28

This time by Lisa Nandy over donations from a man she picked to run England’s new football regulator.

Pantglas2 Sun 09-Nov-25 20:10:57

I hate that it’s women making these mistakes, having to trot to Starmer with their mea culpas and wait for his absolution…

M0nica Sun 09-Nov-25 20:40:02

Just proves that women in power are no better than men.

Maremia Sun 09-Nov-25 21:06:35

It's the quality of the person that counts, not the gender.

mum2three Mon 10-Nov-25 04:29:56

Bribery and corruption in action. This is why the political parties hands are tied. They rely on donations and that means they are open to making deals with the wrong people.

Oreo Mon 10-Nov-25 08:20:23

I think it’s time, on the Party donation front, that it was all stopped and a certain amount allocated from tax payers money given to them for admin and other purposes needed.There would be no more dodgy donations or freebies.MP’s salaries adjusted to recognise that fact.

Luckygirl3 Mon 10-Nov-25 08:48:49

M0nica

Just proves that women in power are no better than men.

Thatcher had already taught us that lesson!

keepingquiet Mon 10-Nov-25 09:07:41

Haha- not half!

MaizieD Mon 10-Nov-25 09:09:11

I’m in a rare moment of agreement with Oreo.

I’ve been saying for years that political parties should be state funded. The only non state income that should be allowed is membership fees.

MPs should also be properly paid and, apart from work needed to keep in touch with professional qualifications, tgey should not be allowed any other jobs or ‘consultancies’.

Rosie51 Mon 10-Nov-25 09:41:30

If political parties were to be state funded, how would it be decided what each party gets? How would creation of a new party be assessed for funding? You'd possibly have political parties springing up like weeds in Spring.
MPs not having other jobs or consultancies can easily be implemented before any other measures are in place. If any of the current ones don't like it they could resign, just as anyone who doesn't like their terms of employment is free to do.

Oreo Mon 10-Nov-25 09:44:05

It could be decided by the number of MP’s in each party, am sure that it’s doable Rosie 😃

M0nica Mon 10-Nov-25 16:16:31

Oreo

It could be decided by the number of MP’s in each party, am sure that it’s doable Rosie 😃

But what about parties that get a lot of votes but do not win many seats. Are we to be double defranchised? First because. as our vote is spread evenly over the country we get lots of votes but no seats and now the fact we get fewer seats we would get less money than other parties.

Romola Tue 11-Nov-25 13:44:34

It was a very small donation, about £2,500. That's pretty normal for any committed local member wanting to support their candidate in a GE.
The right-wing opposition parties are scraping the barrel.

orly Tue 11-Nov-25 14:06:46

They don't need to scrape the barrel. Labour hit rock bottom months ago and is continuing to dig

Mollygo Tue 11-Nov-25 14:43:04

Romola

It was a very small donation, about £2,500. That's pretty normal for any committed local member wanting to support their candidate in a GE.
The right-wing opposition parties are scraping the barrel.

It’s a small amount? The amount is not the issue. Do you have a sliding scale for what the Labour Party should be allowed to do uncriticised?

It’s one more in the accidental or unknowing errors list from a party who claimed they were better than the last lot.

Rosie51 Tue 11-Nov-25 15:08:16

Oreo

It could be decided by the number of MP’s in each party, am sure that it’s doable Rosie 😃

So how would a new party that wanted to form get funding, they'd have no MPs at that point? Or are you saying you're perfectly happy with the ones we have now?
That method would mean that the party currently in power would receive far more public funding than any opposition party, creating a financial imbalance from the get go.

NotSpaghetti Tue 11-Nov-25 15:22:45

She wasn't involved in her fundraising apparently.

Her statement said:
“I welcome the clear recognition that I did not know about two donations I received as a leadership candidate in 2020, when I was a backbench opposition MP, and that as soon as I discovered these donations existed, I chose to declare them and recuse myself from the process."

Not a great look though!

Lahlah65 Tue 11-Nov-25 16:12:55

I think women in politics are targeted on all kinds of levels. Of course it’s partly political, as well as misogynistic. And it’s designed to create disruption and distraction within the current government.

I know KS came in on a platform of zero tolerance for corruption, but I think he lacks judgement on some of these issues. I’d like him to be adopting the BJ approach over refusing to talk about things - ‘move on, nothing to see here’. And chucking the odd dead cat on the table wouldn’t hurt either. Was hoping the new head of communication would be having an impact by now, but little sign of the hoped for change in style……

Mollygo Tue 11-Nov-25 18:11:31

Lisa Nandy says the BBC must uphold the highest standards. 🤣🤣🤣