Trump - Epstein e-mails

It’s generally the really big businesses that run on those lines, and lawyers too rather than family type businesses.It happens a lot and Trump is definitely a fan of that kind of deal.

We have a SME, I can assure you that the majority of business owners are hard working honest people.

Our staff turn over is minimal, longest serving employee is now entering their 33rd year with us.

Labour has done absolutely nothing for the likes of us 🤬

IOMGran

Cariad, we ran our IT company until we retired finally last year. We never stiffed anyone over and we paid our staff well. We ended up reasonably well off but certainly not super rich. We were proud of our work ethics. We did get a couple of hostile and opportunistic attacks from big clients but mostly we could defend ourselves in the claims courts or negotiate a settlement down to something affordable, even though we had done nothing wrong. These injustices still burn me now, and probably add to my contempt for Trump.

Good for you. Good to see there are some ethical businesspeople around.

Cariad, we ran our IT company until we retired finally last year. We never stiffed anyone over and we paid our staff well. We ended up reasonably well off but certainly not super rich. We were proud of our work ethics. We did get a couple of hostile and opportunistic attacks from big clients but mostly we could defend ourselves in the claims courts or negotiate a settlement down to something affordable, even though we had done nothing wrong. These injustices still burn me now, and probably add to my contempt for Trump.

Anniebach

Quote IOMGran Sun 16-Nov-25 18:43:40
Anniebach how can you have an opinion if you have never listened to Trump?

How did you know I don’t listen to Trump ?

You literally wrote that on Sunday!!!!! Are youOK?

Oreo

Trump’s modus operandi is the common business way of doing things by asking for something ludicrous and then doing some back and forth until a sum he’s satisfied with is offered.

Common is right, as its ons step up from gang warfare. My life experience does not show that all business people, particularly the very successful ones, work in this way.

Thuggery is not acceptable, and neither, to my mind is the average citizen's making a normality of such behaviour. It moves us ever closer to a lawless society.

Iam64

Oreo

Trump’s modus operandi is the common business way of doing things by asking for something ludicrous and then doing some back and forth until a sum he’s satisfied with is offered.

Oreo, we have business people in our family. I dislike these tactics as much now as I did as an idealistic secretary aged 21 in 1971 when I worked for the company owner. I liked him and the directors. I disapproved of their tactics. I wanted integrity. I still do. Integrity isn’t important to Mr T not at all

With you on that one - if only because I think it's such a waste of time and energy all round to play that game. Just state where you're at and they state where they're at - and no games playing. It just wastes time and emotional energy - as you try and second guess them.

It's not the sort of games I want to play either. I had to learn what stunts others would play - though I still refuse to play any stunts myself. There's the "find the deliberate errors" stunts and I've had to go through loads of figures before me after I'd figured out what deliberate errors they'd make in their favour and they'd done the lot and I just hoped I'd figured out all their "mistakes". Then there was the deliberately "losing" paperwork one - cue for me beaming broadly as I handed them a photocopy I'd taken just before and saying "I knew you'd do that....."

The business world is a pretty dirty one sometimes. Then there's the doing a full/accurate set of minutes of meetings and I had an employer who altered them from "what they'd actually said" to "what he wanted them to have said".

Then the job interview where he clearly knew there was a particular health hazard there and I couldnt miss it - so he said about it and gave an excuse for it and said it wasnt a problem and not a health hazard (funnily enough I didnt take the job).

Sounds like you don't like sullying your hands with "dirty doings" and your mind with "telling lies" either. Good for you.

Allira

Whitewavemark2

You sound like Trump😄

Who - me? For saying we should sue the BBC if they pay Trump?
It would be a misappropriation of our licence fee!

😁

Or for broadcasting fake news to us?
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Whitewavemark2

You sound like Trump😄

Who - me? For saying we should sue the BBC if they pay Trump?
It would be a misappropriation of our licence fee!

😁

It isn’t important to a lot of people in big business unfortunately Iam64

Oreo

Trump’s modus operandi is the common business way of doing things by asking for something ludicrous and then doing some back and forth until a sum he’s satisfied with is offered.

Oreo, we have business people in our family. I dislike these tactics as much now as I did as an idealistic secretary aged 21 in 1971 when I worked for the company owner. I liked him and the directors. I disapproved of their tactics. I wanted integrity. I still do. Integrity isn’t important to Mr T not at all

Anniebach

I don’t listen to Trump so don’t know what he sounds like

Were you suggesting here that you don’t know the sound of Trump’s voice, rather than you dismiss him?

I think we all agree that the BBC were at fault but I think most people would say that a public apology and resignations of those at the top is more than sufficient.
Especially seeing that if Trump sues the BBC he effectively sues all of us who pay our licence fee.

I don’t understand what you mean Anniebach, of course the BBC were at fault, but that does not mean Trump suing for a colossal sum is justified and should be supported.

Quote Casdon Sun 16-Nov-25 18:13:46
It wouldn’t be a killer blow, because the government would bail them out. They won’t allow them to go to the wall. We would ultimately pay. That’s why I don’t understand those who support Trump on this. I don’t believe it will come to that in reality though.

having the opinion that the BBC were at fault in this is not supporting Trump

Quote IOMGran Sun 16-Nov-25 18:43:40
Anniebach how can you have an opinion if you have never listened to Trump?

How did you know I don’t listen to Trump ?

AGAA4

The money is from the British people and Trump should not get a penny of it.

Agree totally with this.
Nobody wants to know that their licence fee is effectively going into Trump’s pocket.
I don’t really watch the BBC but for one stupid mistake which it seems many other news outlets ran with in either one shape or form, which dates back years, I really don’t think that anything other than a full public apology and resignations, which have now occurred, should be asked for.
And as for Farage who allegedly reported this to Trump in high dudgeon, perhaps he should have been equally honest and above board when spouting lies that resulted in Brexit.

Anniebach how can you have an opinion if you have never listened to Trump?

It wouldn’t be a killer blow, because the government would bail them out. They won’t allow them to go to the wall. We would ultimately pay. That’s why I don’t understand those who support Trump on this. I don’t believe it will come to that in reality though.

Oreo

Trump’s modus operandi is the common business way of doing things by asking for something ludicrous and then doing some back and forth until a sum he’s satisfied with is offered.

I expect we're all familiar with that one - either from the business end or, in my case, the trade union end of things.

But he started with asking for £1 billion and then promptly changed it to £5 billion. Cue for my question to the Internet being "Tell me the effect on the BBC of handing over £1 billion to him" and it would be a very heavy-duty blow. Then I asked about if it were £5 billion and it would be a killer blow.

Hence I reckon his reasoning was "£1 billion - that will be a lotta money for greedy little me if I can get it". Followed by a bit of a rethink of "Actually my preference is to destroy them totally - so I'll amend that upwards to enough to do just that" - hence he changed it up to £5 billion. He wants to destroy it.

I don’t listen to Trump so don’t know what he sounds like

You sound like Trump😄

AGAA4

The money is from the British people and Trump should not get a penny of it.

Perhaps BBC licence payers should threaten to sue the BBC for broadcasting a stream of fake news to an unsuspecting public here.

Or just refuse en masse to pay the fee for a year.

The money is from the British people and Trump should not get a penny of it.

Trump’s modus operandi is the common business way of doing things by asking for something ludicrous and then doing some back and forth until a sum he’s satisfied with is offered.