New asylum rules

Thanks Galaxy

It depends if they are banned or suspended I suppose. But I can think of a number if people who didn't come back GSM for one. On MN a large section of posters changed their name to a version of a banned poster in solidarity, it had no impact whatsoever.

If you have seen it happen before Galaxy, how does it 'pan out'? Do the 'Banned' come back?

Yes Allira, I have noticed that you do that. Courage of your convictions,

Whichever party was in power would be trying to reduce the need for asylum seekers. It’s an increasingly difficult task with climate change and endless wars.
This government is reflecting what is inescapable, trying to act humanely whilst preventing people with no claim from arriving, staying

sue421

Time has come for this to be sorted out once and for all. The people off the boats are being conned into thinking this will be a better life. It can't be, we are struggling with our own problems. Are they true asylum seekers? I would like the people on these boats to be flown back to where they came from immediately. We have our own people to care for, plus true asylum seekers. So we give these boat people money to go back home, when our pensioners, NHS, Hospices need more funds. We have so many people sleeping on our streets, they should come first.

I do think that at long last the government have realised that the government that sorts out the boats is the political party that will survive.

Galaxy

I don't feel uncomfortable with the current situation at all. I have been on MN and GN for about 20 years, as I say this cycle happens again and again.

I agree, don’t know about this site but having been on MN for years this sort of argument goes round and round doesn’t it?
It’s not rocket science, stay within guidelines where possible, and tbh most of the time it is possible to do that.

It depends what they are. If it is just the tedious spam ones I will do.

Galaxy

I don't really want that to be honest. I have reported trolls who have started very weird threads often involving children, I certainly don't want it identified that I reported them.

Oh, I've usually posted reported so other posters know.

Time has come for this to be sorted out once and for all. The people off the boats are being conned into thinking this will be a better life. It can't be, we are struggling with our own problems. Are they true asylum seekers? I would like the people on these boats to be flown back to where they came from immediately. We have our own people to care for, plus true asylum seekers. So we give these boat people money to go back home, when our pensioners, NHS, Hospices need more funds. We have so many people sleeping on our streets, they should come first.

I don't feel uncomfortable with the current situation at all. I have been on MN and GN for about 20 years, as I say this cycle happens again and again.

I certainly wouldn’t feel and don’t. Uncomfortable. I always without fail say I’ve reported someone which I could count on one hand tbh.

You have to have the guts to be honest.

I simply don’t think this secret reporting is working - it is simply causing more unpleasantness and suspicion - look at the poor posters feeling they have to deny it is them. It should never come to this.

Someone needs to get a grip in GN.

It does feel toxic. Passive aggressive comments, underhanded attempts to silence people who express strong views you don’t share
No wonder many interesting posters are stroking back

I would just feel uncomfortable about it. To be honest this discussion has happened many times over the years on both GN and MN, which is probably indicative that things aren't any better or worse than previously.

I think something must be done as it is getting so toxic and unpleasant.

It certainly isn’t working properly at the moment.

Galaxy

I don't really want that to be honest. I have reported trolls who have started very weird threads often involving children, I certainly don't want it identified that I reported them.

Is this because you feel you might be targeted by them?

On the other hand, regular posters aren't really troll like, are they? I suppose it would be asking too much to get Gnet to discriminate between trolls and regular posters.

It helps if people are able to differentiate between what asylum seekers can't do, and what people granted refugee status can.

Casdon

Data from the Department for Work and Pensions show that 112,000 people with refugee status were claiming Universal Credit in December 2024, equivalent to 66% of the adults with refugee status.7 hours ago
migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk

This is unsurprising as they are unable to work.

www.citizensadvice.org.uk/immigration/asylum-and-refugees/after-you-get-refugee-status/

I don't really want that to be honest. I have reported trolls who have started very weird threads often involving children, I certainly don't want it identified that I reported them.

Kandinsky

*Confrontational is another persons challenge*

If I wanted a challenge I’d put myself forward for the London Marathon.
I don’t want a challenge - I just want to chat ( occasionally ) about political issues calmly.
Growstuff was a poster who stopped me from coming on here. Her posting style was just too aggressive. I’m sure she’s lovely in real life but she did come across as very angry.

Pretty much how I feel. I hate being treated like a school child which often happens on here. Recently I was accused of doing something on here which I have never done and never would do although the person accusing me does it herself! I asked for proof of my misdemeanour or an apology but neither appeared and I got a bossy reply. That is not how mature, intelligent women should behave on a forum.

I have had several PMs on this occasion and in the past about how confrontational some people are and how it has stopped others from joining in with discussions because they feel intimidated. Several people have suggested that it is because some members have extremely strong political opinions and will not even try to listen to other opinions. I suggested the other day that both main parties might work together but that went down like a lead balloon.

I think the mods do a pretty good job actually considering what a busy site it is. Just to repeat what I said in a previous post I did not report anybody on this thread.

Sorry to hear of more suspensions and banning, I will miss them. growstuff has been here for a long time, and knows her onions, I hope she is reinstated.

I’m with GrannyGravy13 on reporting, I always say if I have done it. In my opinion it should be used very lightly - and I think it would be if the reporter was named. At the moment, banning and suspensions are inconsistent, because people can report silently, and some people are more trigger happy than others, so some posts are not reported although worse than some that result in banning and suspension.

Despite this Thread having moved onto the difficult topic of reporting and banning, these past few pages have been the most civilised ones I have ever experienced on a N&P Thread.

Don’t apologise Allira. I’ don’t expect MsyBee feels got at 🌞

Noticing who isn’t contributing to the discussion on the arbutsru bannings

MayBee70

fancythat

Especially by posters who have been here the longest.

People know each other in the real world from meet ups etc. although there don’t seem to be as many meet ups as there used to be.

Sorry, ignore my post, you already said that, Maybee.

I've been at the hospital this afternoon.

fancythat

Especially by posters who have been here the longest.

Some posters know each other from meet-ups and have probably exchanged email addresses.