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The Budget

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Allsorts Tue 25-Nov-25 07:51:50

Buckle up,it's going to bepainfull.

Mollygo Wed 26-Nov-25 18:54:06

This will be good for people in Lancaster and Morecambe if what I watched on the news last night about the highest number of children in poverty is true. I look forward to reading that the money will change that.

Allira Wed 26-Nov-25 18:37:00

GrannyGravy13

Barmeyoldbat

So only scruffy people benefit from the child benefit I am told on Gransnet. Is this everyones opinion

I assume you mean Universal Credit Child Benefit not general Child Benefit

Some of the scruffiest people I know are millionaires 🤷‍♀️

Anyone can have a scruffy day.

Anyone can have a scruffy day
And you don't need young children to have a scruffy day, although it helps.

Homestead62 Wed 26-Nov-25 18:35:10

All I will say is, at the first opportunity I have to vote Labour out, I will do. Rachel Reeves and much of the rest of them do not have a clue what they are doing. I'm really angry and do not want to write anymore.

Allira Wed 26-Nov-25 18:34:20

David49

Generally a good budget and optimistic for business, generally the tax rises were well balanced but I did think Mansion Tax was too timid £2500 is small change if your house is over £2m.
Shame about releasing the detail 2 hours early

Let’s see what is in the small print.

That tax is in addition to the Council tax.

David49 Wed 26-Nov-25 18:23:36

Generally a good budget and optimistic for business, generally the tax rises were well balanced but I did think Mansion Tax was too timid £2500 is small change if your house is over £2m.
Shame about releasing the detail 2 hours early

Let’s see what is in the small print.

Casdon Wed 26-Nov-25 18:16:26

The research shows it is the best way, and has been welcomed by all the charities working with children living in poverty.

www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/no-half-measures/

LauraNorderr Wed 26-Nov-25 18:01:23

I don’t see how the lifting of the cap takes children out of poverty. Surely there is no guarantee that the extra funds in the household will be spent on the children.
I would rather see the extra money put in to schemes that feed or clothe children directly.
Or perhaps better spent on parenting classes during school years. Nutrition, cookery, needlework. The importance of nurturing. Anger management. Sex education and birth control.
All sorts of ways of improving life for our children.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 26-Nov-25 17:58:16

Barmeyoldbat

So only scruffy people benefit from the child benefit I am told on Gransnet. Is this everyones opinion

I assume you mean Universal Credit Child Benefit not general Child Benefit

Some of the scruffiest people I know are millionaires 🤷‍♀️

Anyone can have a scruffy day.

Pantglas2 Wed 26-Nov-25 17:54:51

It’s not rocket science. Research shows that the two child limit on Universal Credit is a major driver of child poverty.
In the year to April 2024, 4.5 million children in the UK, 31% of all children, were living in poverty after housing costs. This represents a record high, with 100,000 more children in poverty than the previous year. Approximately 3.1 million children are in "deep poverty" (with a household income below 50% of the median).
Casdon

Surely the main cause of child poverty is parents on universal credit with two children then deciding to have a third when they know there will only be Child Benefit of £17 coming in to support it?

Barmeyoldbat Wed 26-Nov-25 17:52:59

So only scruffy people benefit from the child benefit I am told on Gransnet. Is this everyones opinion

GrannyGravy13 Wed 26-Nov-25 17:43:07

DaisyAnneReturns I would rather they give the hospitality industry a tax holiday of some kind.

They haven’t recovered from Lockdowns, along with the NI and minimum wage increases, are closing down regularly.

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 26-Nov-25 17:36:16

GrannyGravy13

DaisyAnneReturns I am aware of tourist tax when travelling abroad.

Not a fan of it when I want to visit friends or family, necessitating a stay in a U.K. hotel.

But wouldn't it affect families in other countries when they visit family and friends GrannyGravy13? Those who have had it for sometime have obviously got used to it. I don't doubt most will here - certainly younger people.

I do understand some will not like it, but with the many who can't afford a great deal of travel in the UK and younger people I don't think it will be a stand out part of the budget.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 26-Nov-25 17:24:50

As I posted up thread there is no limit on Child Benefit (weekly Family Allowance regardless if you are working or not)

The two child benefit cap is the amount of children you claim for when in receipt of Universal Credit.

Child Benefit is taxed when one partner earns £60,000 and above.the higher the salary the more Child Benefit is clawed back

Barmeyoldbat Wed 26-Nov-25 17:20:13

Stranded your comment way back about scruffy people etc. receiving more child benefit is disgusting and shows what is wrong with is country. Have you for one minute thought that there might be a dad who is a single parent to two children who gets together with a single mother of two children. They end up being classed as a family with more than two children and so lose one lot entitlement to child benefit. My son was such a case, working hard and far from scruffy. His partner was also working hard and far from scruffy.

Casdon Wed 26-Nov-25 17:04:26

In Greece you pay a nightly Climate Crisis Resilience Fee, which amounts to the same thing. It’s already been announced for Wales, from April 2027. I don’t think it will have any detrimental impact on UK tourism - I just hope it’s used to improve tourist facilities.

Mollygo Wed 26-Nov-25 17:00:44

Tourist tax has been active everywhere we’ve been in France for several years.
I don’t object to it here, as long as MPs don't claim it back as an expense when they’re on not here Keir visits.

Susieq62 Wed 26-Nov-25 16:57:39

We pay tourist tax in Spain Portugal Italy , doesn’t stop us from travelling! Doubt it will make any impact on visitors to the UK plus will benefit local economies! I would have liked an exit tax as well !

GrannyGravy13 Wed 26-Nov-25 16:57:12

LauraNorderr

I’m happy to know that the baby goats will be well looked after.
Priority given to kids!

I know, it is one of my idiosyncrasies, I had children not kids 👍

GrannyGravy13 Wed 26-Nov-25 16:56:17

DaisyAnneReturns I am aware of tourist tax when travelling abroad.

Not a fan of it when I want to visit friends or family, necessitating a stay in a U.K. hotel.

Wyllow3 Wed 26-Nov-25 16:52:22

You've lost me with this profound remark.

LauraNorderr Wed 26-Nov-25 16:46:46

I’m happy to know that the baby goats will be well looked after.
Priority given to kids!

Wyllow3 Wed 26-Nov-25 16:46:10

Allira, it's clear the situation is just very different, this page may help you? Note the free breakfasts for all children already P 1 to P5.

www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=budget+breakfast+clubs+for+Scotland&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 26-Nov-25 16:45:50

GrannyGravy13

I am definitely not impressed with the so called Tourist Tax

This will make people think twice about an overnight stay or a weekend away in the U.K.

Another nail in the coffin of the hospitality sector.

Thought I would get ai to help us on this one (knowing little about it).

Many countries (and even individual cities/regions) have some form of “tourist tax.” These are also called visitor taxes, occupancy taxes, bed taxes, city taxes, or tourism levies. They are typically small fees added to hotel stays, short-term rentals, or sometimes collected at airports.

🌍 Where tourist taxes are common
Tourist taxes exist in Europe, Asia, Africa, the Caribbean, and Oceania. Examples include:

Europe has the widest adoption:
Italy – Rome, Venice, Florence, and most cities charge a nightly “tassa di soggiorno.”
France – A “taxe de séjour” is added to hotel bills in places like Paris and Nice.
Spain – Catalonia (Barcelona) and the Balearic Islands (Mallorca, Ibiza).
Greece, Portugal, Belgium, Croatia, Austria, Germany, Switzerland, Netherlands (Amsterdam is particularly well-known).
United Kingdom – Manchester and Edinburgh recently introduced tourist taxes.

Asia
Japan – A small departure tax (“sayonara tax”) added to air tickets.
Malaysia – A national flat-rate tourism tax on accommodation.
Indonesia – Bali implemented a tourist levy in 2024.
Some cities in Thailand are considering one.

North America
United States – Many cities have a hotel or occupancy tax (e.g., New York City, San Francisco).
Canada – Major cities like Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal charge a tourism or hotel tax.
Caribbean – Many islands charge environmental or departure fees (Bahamas, Jamaica, Barbados, etc.).

Oceania
New Zealand – An International Visitor Conservation and Tourism Levy (IVL).
Fiji – Has environment and hotel taxes.
Africa

Tourist taxes exist in Morocco, Tunisia, South Africa (in some municipalities), and various island nations like Seychelles and Mauritius.

💡 Why they exist
Countries use tourist taxes to:

Fund tourism infrastructure
Support environmental protection
Reduce strain on local services used by visitors
Manage overtourism in popular destinations

🧾 How they’re charged. Most common methods:

Per night per person added to accommodation
Percentage of the room rate
Flat airport departure fee
Entry/visa fee
Environmental levy

Allira Wed 26-Nov-25 16:42:42

Jaxjacky

£80 million on more breakfast clubs in schools, good, but such a shame they’re needed.

Is this just England? Has she given extra to devolved countries specifically aimed at helping children?

Jaxjacky Wed 26-Nov-25 16:40:36

£80 million on more breakfast clubs in schools, good, but such a shame they’re needed.