The Budget

Attack the kids, they can’t fight back because they don’t have a vote. Good idea Wretchel.

Thanks W3 for a good example of bragging. What has your child and spouse got to do with the number of people with multiple children who can’t afford them?
Unless despite being a professor it’s not a well paid job.
There’s having children you can afford, that unforeseen circumstances later mean you can’t. No one can help that. Then there’s having more children than you can afford to start with.
That’s a bit racist, bringing in immigrants don't you think?

JaneJudge

Why don’t they just tax fat people more so they drink less milkshakes?

^this is basically what they are doing
Why can’t they educate ppl

Because body shaming is not a cure for many illnesses which cause people to be overweight?

Mollygo

sundowngirl

She is only try to appease her own back benchers

And looking for support for her party from those who are still having families of 4 or more.

Oh dear! My Ds and DiL clearly sinners. yet he is a maths professor, she is a speech therapist. the children (except for my dear very disabled one) re very likely -show signs already- of being very bright, very responsible members of society, wanting to do good, caring and loving.

How desperately shocking. shouldn't be allowed, clearly. We must need immigrants to fill the jobs they will do, perhaps?

Instead of raising income tax rates, one tax, one process, there will be up to a hundred tiny tax adjustments on a hundred different taxes.

That’s one hundred more processes, administered by a hundred different teams, increasing the cost of administration by a hundred fold, thus reducing the overall tax take for the government.

Wildly inefficient and resulting in the likelihood of income tax increases next year, on top of the silly cuts this year. Senseless spending on administration and lack of vision.

sundowngirl

She is only try to appease her own back benchers

And looking for support for her party from those who are still having families of 4 or more.

DaisyAnnReturns were you not around in the 70s and early 80s then??

Calendargirl

^very quick access to walk in health care by 2035^

Many of us might not be around to take advantage by then.

Labour won’t be the government after 4 years never mind 10.

Why don’t they just tax fat people more so they drink less milkshakes?

^this is basically what they are doing
Why can’t they educate ppl

Calendargirl

^very quick access to walk in health care by 2035^

Many of us might not be around to take advantage by then.

The government is there for everyone not just the elderly who have, in general, experienced economic conditions in the UK, such as cheaper housing, free education, and strong job security, that have become much harder to access for younger generations. Unrealistic expectations could lose us all the sympathy some continue to expect.

Less than 24 hrs notice is very unfair Wyllow3.

At least they demonstrate peacefully unlike the Stop Oil lot and the Pro Palestinians. Seems they are allowed to do what they like.

Primrose53

Wyllow3

Primrose53

Not fair that the farmer’s tractor demo has been stopped tomorrow when it had previously been approved. Apparently there will be plenty on foot though.

I think that is perfectly fair. It stops or slows down essential traffic like emergency vehicles. Demonstrations on foot can be kept to one side of the road to allow essential traffic through.

So why approve it initially then?

No idea.

Common sense eventually prevailed.

If you are a well off pensioner with income higher than £35k you can afford £4 a week to pay for better social services, everyone else on that income will be contributing as well.
It’s simple pensioners use a high proportion of NHS and social services if you can afford it you should pay more.

That is the government logic

Wyllow3

Primrose53

Not fair that the farmer’s tractor demo has been stopped tomorrow when it had previously been approved. Apparently there will be plenty on foot though.

I think that is perfectly fair. It stops or slows down essential traffic like emergency vehicles. Demonstrations on foot can be kept to one side of the road to allow essential traffic through.

So why approve it initially then?

Primrose53

Not fair that the farmer’s tractor demo has been stopped tomorrow when it had previously been approved. Apparently there will be plenty on foot though.

I think that is perfectly fair. It stops or slows down essential traffic like emergency vehicles. Demonstrations on foot can be kept to one side of the road to allow essential traffic through.

Now there's a thought, but how could it be really got off the ground sooner? I think looking for improvement in GP services are still very important for our age group, but as previous threads have shown, its actually quite good for some - very patchy depending on where you live and of course good management.

very quick access to walk in health care by 2035

Many of us might not be around to take advantage by then.

Not fair that the farmer’s tractor demo has been stopped tomorrow when it had previously been approved. Apparently there will be plenty on foot though.

Wyllow3

It's always good to know what people really think deep down. 🙄

That's not thinking Wyllow it's feeling. There are no supporting facts as they don't exist.

It's always good to know what people really think deep down. 🙄

Mollygo

Walking through town today, it’s quite obvious who will benefit from the removal of the 2 child cap.

Feckless, scruffy people with so many children they can't even count them.

Puts in me in mind of a previous Prime Minister.

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Allira

Casdon

Do you think aspartame would be added to milk based drinks, I don’t think that’s been done before? I’d hope they would just be less sweet with maximum 4.5% sugar, but still palatable without additives. I sometimes drink oat latte, and I’d definitely be happier if it had less sugar.b

As I never add sugar to coffee at home or when out, I don't understand why sugar is added to those sold as ready drinks. Unless it's as a preservative?

I guess milk shakes have always been a sweet drink, but I do agree with you on coffee. As far as I know you can’t buy unsweetened oat latte in a carton. I don’t take sugar in coffee normally, but on the go, there is no choice.

sundowngirl

She is only try to appease her own back benchers

Maybe the back benchers have a point sundowngirl. Helping those struggling most -

since when was that a "bad thing ? - it used to be part of a ongoing past Conservative Party's concerns as well!

sundowngirl

Why on earth is she looking to lift the 2 child cap when recent polls show nearly 70% are against it being removed and she has a 37 million black hole to fill

To receive pressure on the poorest families of course, food banks, and it's not a waste of money as it will be spent as per consumers spending money and boosting the economy.

It's not just the image conjured up of the "Very deprived". Ordinary families on low professional type incomes are struggling too.