Fleet of heavily armed US military planes land in England

nanna8

China has taken over and bought its way into many Pacific islands and I don’t think it is far fetched to consider that Greenland is on their list of potentials. What they do is to inject a lot of funding and infrastructure into their target country which the locals gratefully accept. No need for weapons, just brains. Their influence here in Australia is also enormous though we have not yet been taken over. Give it time. Trump might not be so avaricious and self seeking as he appears.

When in the South Pacific years ago we saw new infrastructure, harbours etc being built by the Chinese.

China has taken over and bought its way into many Pacific islands and I don’t think it is far fetched to consider that Greenland is on their list of potentials. What they do is to inject a lot of funding and infrastructure into their target country which the locals gratefully accept. No need for weapons, just brains. Their influence here in Australia is also enormous though we have not yet been taken over. Give it time. Trump might not be so avaricious and self seeking as he appears.

Naw, I think as always with Trump it's money, money, money.

Probably the minerals are a bonus but the real aim is security.
China is the major threat to the Western world.

This has absolutely zero to do with security, and 100% to do with rare minerals and increasing Trumps family wealth.

David49

There is no scenario where NATO could take action against the US, far too much technology relies on US input. We could of course ask China to help us liberate Greenland

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Whitewavemark2

A spurious argument david

China bids all over the world - we have China projects in the U.K.

Do you not realise what a strategic island Greenland is?

Syracute

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David49

There is no scenario where NATO could take action against the US, far too much technology relies on US input. We could of course ask China to help us liberate Greenland

Exactly, David49!

China has been after Greenland for a long time but have been thwarted by Washington. Only recently they were after building 3 airports but have backed off.

Who would we rather control Greenland? China? Russia?

I'm going with USA. This is not just about oil, it's about security.

You and David think the Greenlanders, an Inuit tribe should just be kicked aside . They overwhelmingly do not want any part of Trump and his plans for invasion.
There is no proof that China has designs on Greenland. That is pure TRUMPSPEAK or better yet MILLERSPEAK.
Shame on you both .

That’s a silly comment as those posters didn’t say that at all.
Would it be too much to expect posters to read comments properly.

A spurious argument david

China bids all over the world - we have China projects in the U.K.

“You and David think the Greenlanders, an Inuit tribe should just be kicked aside . They overwhelmingly do not want any part of Trump and his plans for invasion.
There is no proof that China has designs on Greenland. That is pure TRUMPSPEAK or better yet MILLERSPEAK.
Shame on you both .”

China has been bidding for construction projects and mining rights for many years , so far they have been denied. The US not want China to be cozying up to a future independant Greenland, lending them money and becoming dominant as they are in other developing countries.
It is not in UK interest for Greenland to be dominated in that way.

Syracute

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David49

There is no scenario where NATO could take action against the US, far too much technology relies on US input. We could of course ask China to help us liberate Greenland

Exactly, David49!

China has been after Greenland for a long time but have been thwarted by Washington. Only recently they were after building 3 airports but have backed off.

Who would we rather control Greenland? China? Russia?

I'm going with USA. This is not just about oil, it's about security.

You and David think the Greenlanders, an Inuit tribe should just be kicked aside . They overwhelmingly do not want any part of Trump and his plans for invasion.
There is no proof that China has designs on Greenland. That is pure TRUMPSPEAK or better yet MILLERSPEAK.
Shame on you both .

Yes exactly this

Purplepixie

Why does USA always have to call the tunes!???????

I'm now wishing again that I'd bought a copy of the book about the CIA I read quite some time ago - as it was rather a horrifying toll of countries that America has decided to do a change of government on since around World War 2 and used the CIA towards those purposes.

America is concerned with America - and blow everyone else - was very much the message of the book. Am guessing they are likely to be even more like that - now their currency isnt so much THE thing for world trading purposes as it once was and they're in rather a lot of trouble as a country from what I can gather.

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David49

There is no scenario where NATO could take action against the US, far too much technology relies on US input. We could of course ask China to help us liberate Greenland

Exactly, David49!

China has been after Greenland for a long time but have been thwarted by Washington. Only recently they were after building 3 airports but have backed off.

Who would we rather control Greenland? China? Russia?

I'm going with USA. This is not just about oil, it's about security.

You and David think the Greenlanders, an Inuit tribe should just be kicked aside . They overwhelmingly do not want any part of Trump and his plans for invasion.
There is no proof that China has designs on Greenland. That is pure TRUMPSPEAK or better yet MILLERSPEAK.
Shame on you both .

The USA doesn’t have to stay part of NATO if it stops them from achieving its territorial and financial objectives.
A sobering thought. wwm2.

I see the USA is bombing bits of Syria - isis they say. Who asked them to do that? Syria?

How about letting the Greenlanders decide? It is after all their country!

At present they seem rather sensibly to be content with the status quo which means that they are under the NATO umbrella, and given the fuss Trump is making over security, Greenland can be confident that the USA as part of NATO will defend them.

David49

There is no scenario where NATO could take action against the US, far too much technology relies on US input. We could of course ask China to help us liberate Greenland

Exactly, David49!

China has been after Greenland for a long time but have been thwarted by Washington. Only recently they were after building 3 airports but have backed off.

Who would we rather control Greenland? China? Russia?

I'm going with USA. This is not just about oil, it's about security.

There is no scenario where NATO could take action against the US, far too much technology relies on US input. We could of course ask China to help us liberate Greenland

Is he taking the UK? Maybe thinking the war of independence could go further ? Wouldn’t be totally surprised.

Allsorts

Trumps should not be given a State Visit, he is no friend of ours but I think America is. It has been brainwashed by Trump and his equally awful right hand men. Everything passes and he will too, there will start to be a backlash over his frenetic rants talking nonsense. He does have some good ideas, but rushes in trailing mayhem. Act first, think later. This will see him out,'

He's made it quite clear he dislikes the UK and everything about it so why he would want to come here is a mystery.

Trumps should not be given a State Visit, he is no friend of ours but I think America is. It has been brainwashed by Trump and his equally awful right hand men. Everything passes and he will too, there will start to be a backlash over his frenetic rants talking nonsense. He does have some good ideas, but rushes in trailing mayhem. Act first, think later. This will see him out,'

They call the tunes because they have more money than anyone else! They are not just a partner in NATO - they are NATO and without their contribution in terms of money and manpower, NATO would struggle both financially and, more importantly, strategically. There is no protocol for what happens if one member nation annexes another member nation. I have visions of Putin sitting with his hands folded in his lap, quietly waiting for NATO to collapse. I’m deeply saddened by what is happening at the moment.

Purplepixie

Why does USA always have to call the tunes!???????

Because they have the power.

But reading it would seem that the 3 great powers are content to carve up the world into 3 spheres of influence and all three operating revanchist policies, but how long this can continue without a clash between them is open to debate. Trump is clearly not keeping to his sphere as Gaza, Iran, Africa bear witness.

Why does USA always have to call the tunes!???????

Trump blusters a lot, in the end I think they will come to some arrangement with Denmark.

There are those in the diplomatic community who are beginning to think that bluff and bluster is now something more serious and that, after the Venezuela take over, he thinks he is “on a roll” and might just want to push things to the wire.