Robert Jenrick has been sacked

Dull and boring but solid will do for now!

After all the shenanigans I think we needed solid and I thought steady was what we needed at the time of the election.

The U turns have been rather disappointing though, but I suppose it means they are listening. Perhaps Reeves will be his
Achilles heel.

Susieq62

Starmer is solid hard working and not particularly self centred from what I have seen ! He has made mistakes , don’t we all ? I would have boring any day after the shower of Truss , Johnson, Cameron, May who allowed our country to be brought to its knees by austerity, Brexit , Covid chaos ( should have had a coalition gov then) ! Yes! Dull and boring but solid will do for now!
So another Tory defects! Reform is full of Tory has beens who require very careful scrutiny of their morals !
Nanna8 get off your anti Starmer high horse as you haven’t really any idea of our politics here! Look at your own back yard for homelessness, high rents, people living in cars, ( yes I saw it last year in the Perth suburbs ) flooding, wildfires, plus selling your resources to China !

Starmer is solid hard working and not particularly self centred from what I have seen ! He has made mistakes , don’t we all ? I would have boring any day after the shower of Truss , Johnson, Cameron, May who allowed our country to be brought to its knees by austerity, Brexit , Covid chaos ( should have had a coalition gov then) ! Yes! Dull and boring but solid will do for now!

Thoughtful comment, Susieq62

Among political scientists, journalists, and comparative politics scholars, Starmer’s Labour is typically described as:

Centre-left economically
Socially liberal but institutionally conservative
Strongly anti-populist and pro-establishment

On the political horseshoe, that puts them:

Nowhere near the left extreme
Closer to the centre than to the traditional social-democratic left of the 1970s–90s
Very far from the authoritarian convergence zone where the horseshoe “bends”

I’m open to disagreement, but it helps if people explain their reasoning rather than just stating that they disagree.

Susieq62 - 🤙

as for rats and sinking ships, Reform continues to attract people with reputations for lies and lack of integrity

Rats leaving a sinking ship? No, rats helping to sink a ship that's already full of holes. I've yet to see one Conservative or Labour MP with a reputation for honesty and integrity jump ship to sail with Farage.

Starmer is solid hard working and not particularly self centred from what I have seen ! He has made mistakes , don’t we all ? I would have boring any day after the shower of Truss , Johnson, Cameron, May who allowed our country to be brought to its knees by austerity, Brexit , Covid chaos ( should have had a coalition gov then) ! Yes! Dull and boring but solid will do for now!
So another Tory defects! Reform is full of Tory has beens who require very careful scrutiny of their morals !
Nanna8 get off your anti Starmer high horse as you haven’t really any idea of our politics here! Look at your own back yard for homelessness, high rents, people living in cars, ( yes I saw it last year in the Perth suburbs ) flooding, wildfires, plus selling your resources to China !

Did I mention “bad”? I was thinking to myself “fanatical” though. Mind you he has been under investigation for other things but escaped prosecution.

Are we now saying people with an interest in flags are bad?

Methinks that the latest Reform recruit was always destined to be a member of the party ( or is it still a limited company?). From Wikipedia
“Rosindell is well known for his interest in flags, being described by The Times in 2011 as a "flag fanatic".[59] He is a member of the Flag Institute, an educational organisation that offers advice and guidance about flags and their usage.

On 5 February 2008, Rosindell became founding chairman of the All Party Parliamentary Flag Group (APPFG),[60][61] and proposed a Union Flag Bill[62] under the Ten Minute Rule. The APPFG changed its name to the Flags & Heraldry Committee in April 2010.

In April 2021 Rosindell joined other Conservative Party members in calling for the Union Flag to be flown outside UK schools“

Sorry Primrose, just can't agree that Starner is the worst PM ever. That accolade goes to Liz Truss, closely followed by Johnson.
Don't care if the PM is dull and boring.
Trump is neither. Would hate him to be our PM.

Nope I always highlight those I consider aggressive men.

And still the dead cats are flying.

I certainly wouldn't trust Campbell, his reputation was well known in the Blair years, his behaviour towards people he disagrees with often causes me concern.

Jenrick or Campbell?

He would be better joining the Labour Party - they are plagued with lies and dissembling. He would fit on .

Well, from listening to The Rest is Politics and their Leading interviews I think he speaks a great deal of common sense and I certainly trust him. I wonder how many people that don’t trust Campbell trust Farage?

Allira

Alistair Campbell?
Why do people trust him?

That's a good question. Is it trust though, or a recognition that he does have knowledge that may be worth listening too. It doesn't mean you have to "believe" what he says but if you don’t listen to and consider both sides, how can you be sure you’re right, rather than just being drawn in by the superficial appeal of one view?

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Rosindell. A man with cruel, archaic views. The only surprise is that he hasn’t defected before now.

He was absent from Parliament for two years from 2022 to 2024 under investigation for alleged sexual offences.

Also know for expense fiddling and filibustering with Chope.

An unpleasant man who has found his tribe.

Sounds about right …..

Rosindell. A man with cruel, archaic views. The only surprise is that he hasn’t defected before now.

He was absent from Parliament for two years from 2022 to 2024 under investigation for alleged sexual offences.

Also know for expense fiddling and filibustering with Chope.

An unpleasant man who has found his tribe.

Yep! 😂

Dh sent me this earlier 😂😂

Have never heard of Andrew Rosendale.

Rats leaving a sinking ship.

Rossindell

Allira

Alistair Campbell?
Why do people trust him?

they don’t.

Conservative MP Andrew Rossendale has just defected to Reform.

Alistair Campbell?
Why do people trust him?

Whoops! AC is neither far left nor mad as a box of frogs? Neither is Starmer the worst PM we've had. Now, Liz Truss is three of the two, I'll leave you to decide which 2 and leave it there. I won't add further to the attempt to derail this thread. Jenrick is getting bad press over his duplicity and deserves it.