Former Prince Andrew has just been arrested in Norfolk

We are discussing the protection officers here who usually sign the OSA but they are allowed authorised disclosure which they’ll have in these circumstances

Members of the Royal Family cannot be subjects of MI6 files, though their close connections can be

Where the ridiculous privileges we blindly give to these royals leads. Let’s not forget we had Hitlers supporters in the Royal family - so why on Earth do we not have them subjected to the scrutiny the rest of us are. Makes nonsense of ‘all equal before the law’. Clearly we are not.

Gordon Brown has given a five page summary to all the police about what he knows. Gordon Brown for heavens sake. He’d be unlikely to put his head above the parapet unnecessarily surely.

Tuliptree

Just broken - BBC website.

Summary
The Metropolitan Police says it is asking Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor's protection officers what "they saw or heard" during their period of service
In a statement, it says it is requesting any information as part of an ongoing review into the Epstein files

That may be problematic as some if not all would have signed the official secrets act.

We know why there was an out of court settlement.
The facts are the VGs statement was not tested in court, she was interviewed by UK police and by US police both decided not to proceed further.

That remains the position today there has been no further evidence, just lots of unsubstantiated allegations, if there is action may be taken. The law says there is no case to answer with VG, I support that position.

If you do not support the rule of law, say so now and shame on you

Just broken - BBC website.

Summary
The Metropolitan Police says it is asking Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor's protection officers what "they saw or heard" during their period of service
In a statement, it says it is requesting any information as part of an ongoing review into the Epstein files

All these failing attempts to stop us chatting about whatever we want, within GN rules

No it’s a very apt one.😄

Mollygo

GNs could save the taxpayers a fortune. Judge, jury, trial, conviction.

That really is a very silly post isn’t it?

Mollygo

GNs could save the taxpayers a fortune. Judge, jury, trial, conviction.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Scary isn’t it? 😬

GNs could save the taxpayers a fortune. Judge, jury, trial, conviction.

Oreo

I sincerely hope that the Security Officers won’t be scapegoated.

Oh yes of course that’s what happens. Well I sincerely hope they are scrutinised for what they knew and didn’t report. Of more likely what they did report to whom and who therefore covered it up.

Reply to Oreo about the Royal Police.

There is every chance that they will.

Oreo

flappergirl
The £12 million was likely paid so as no court case took place, or as you say to shut her up, the Queen was said to be disturbed at the thought of protracted proceedings.
I take issue with what you say about another poster and the patriarchy or that he is even defending AMW I see no evidence of that at all.Simply a reasonable unwillingness to believe anything either AMW says or what VG said without any proof at all of what actually did happen. Everyone including AMW is entitled to a fair hearing.

Oh yes why didn’t I think of that explanation? I mean really? Do you think some of us came down on the up train? The danger of the optics of paying £12m is so blindingly obvious that it’s clear they thought that a better risk than allowing a court case. As for defending David’s posts, I suggest you reread them - well those that haven’t been deleted that is. I agree he comes across as defending the patriarchy. As for getting a fair trial, well why not report the posts on here that are preventing that?

I sincerely hope that the Security Officers won’t be scapegoated.

Yes Allira good point. Has AndrewMW ever told documented lies?
Is their any evidence that he has done so?
Of course there is. That amazing interview with Emily M.
And then the real timelines about contact with Epstein came out through emails.
Evidence, evidence evidence.

That’s adding 2 and 2 and making 5 Whitewavemark2
Their ‘complaints’ could have been about literally anything in their duties.

Maremia

This is a difficult one for the Royal Police Security Officers. It has been alleged that if they brought up complaints, a certain Royal sent them away with 'a flea in their ear'. They also risked being demoted and put back on the beat.

Which in turn supports the idea that they knew exactly what was going on.

This is a difficult one for the Royal Police Security Officers. It has been alleged that if they brought up complaints, a certain Royal sent them away with 'a flea in their ear'. They also risked being demoted and put back on the beat.

flappergirl
The £12 million was likely paid so as no court case took place, or as you say to shut her up, the Queen was said to be disturbed at the thought of protracted proceedings.
I take issue with what you say about another poster and the patriarchy or that he is even defending AMW I see no evidence of that at all.Simply a reasonable unwillingness to believe anything either AMW says or what VG said without any proof at all of what actually did happen. Everyone including AMW is entitled to a fair hearing.

Allira

Labradora

A propos of the " misconduct in public office" - he hasn't been charged with anything yet.......

He was arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office.

I realise that but he hasn't been charged yet.
There has to be sufficient evidence to charge him.
Not saying that he won't be charged but he hasn't yet.

I think that there is a lot more to come out. David Dimbleby and Andrew Lownie on BBC indicated that the RF including of course her late Maj. were absolutely aware of Windsor’s misdeeds and have moved heaven and hell to keep it covered up.

Dimbleby also suggested that there is a lot of stuff that has been covered up, apart from the Andrew stuff.

Labradora

A propos of the " misconduct in public office" - he hasn't been charged with anything yet.......

He was arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office.

David49

Tuliptree

Iam64

No wonder it took so long to prosecute the men involved in organised child sexual exploitation here is it. David appears not to understand trafficked people can’t give consent.

And he’s not the only one - both in GN and within the CJ system

Epstein was convicted of trafficking if you have evidence that AMW was involved then let's have it now, or stop making unsubstantiated allegations.

We have plenty of sex trafficking in the UK, the police know pretty much who responsible, it would be easy to stop if we had vigilantes to dispense justice, the same goes for the drug trade.

So why was £12 million quid paid to Virginia Guiffre by the Royal Family to shut her up? That's a one hell of a financial hit. And it created an inevitable whiff of guilt, or at the very least something decidedly fishy. If AMW was whiter than white then why pay hush money? Especially considering he's a member of the Royal Family with one of the best legal teams in the world. You seem determined to defend him at all costs and equally determined to discredit the numerous testimonies from women. Are you doing your bit to up hold the patriarchy David? I mean, I really think you might be betting on the wrong horse here.