Former Prince Andrew has just been arrested in Norfolk

Tha can allis tell a Yorkshire man……but tha canna tell him much.

not down south in places like Yorkshire

Classic

David49

ferry23

And this was 1970??

I think you chose the wrong college David.

No, I was there to learn not for the social life, that year formed my entire business life, it doesn't seem to be a priority at all today for a great many.
Alcohol wasn't allowed on site either, but in those days Yorkshire was quite conservative, in many pubs women weren't allowed in the bar

Well if you weren't there for the social life and didn't wish to participate, you're probably not in a position to comment about the views of many of the female students. I had a wonderful time socially at uni. I have a BA, and went on to do my Masters so it is actually possible to study and enjoy yourself.

And you say it was conservative - in many pubs women weren't allowed in the bar.

That's not conservative, that's misogynistic, sexist, bigoted and chauvinistic.

Oh dear I didn’t leave school till mid 70’s I missed out on all this free love

Didn’t venture north until my late 20’s (Windermere) apart from visiting relatives in north Wales.

1 in 10?
How many of us are looking at friends and neighbours.
The percentage among them at 1 in 10 means quite a lot have participated.

I was also at university in a big gritty northern city, not down south in places like Yorkshire

Aberdeen, MOnica? 🤔

I think you’ve just made an enemy of every true born Yorkshire person on the forum. You know there’s no grit like Yorkshire grit and nothing exists further north😂

1961, I was in a women's hall of residence andthere were strict rules about having men in your room. mid day to 6.00pm and you were ejected from hall if a man was caught inside the sacred portals outside those hours. But what has that got to do with it? The men's halls were more lax and many students were in flats or bedsitters. There is also no time limit on when you do anything.

I was also at university in a big gritty northern city, not down south in places like Yorkshire.

Blimey!

ferry23

And this was 1970??

I think you chose the wrong college David.

No, I was there to learn not for the social life, that year formed my entire business life, it doesn't seem to be a priority at all today for a great many.
Alcohol wasn't allowed on site either, but in those days Yorkshire was quite conservative, in many pubs women weren't allowed in the bar

And this was 1970??

I think you chose the wrong college David.

You were at a puritan college David I never got to Uni i was still living at home but still managed a healthy sex life, starting a bit later than nowadays at 18. Plenty of xxx before but the actual sex sex started at 18, but hey ho that was the sixties the age of free love
What a brilliant decade that was

Very interested in the racy university life I missed.
I was at college in Yorkshire in 1970 and the girls were not interested in sex, there was a strict non fraternization policy and the wardens were very diligent. One older student was seen taking a woman into the hostel, the warden checked up only to discover it was his wife. LOL He was the only one to even try to break the rule, we all knew that we would get kicked out if we got caught.

Make me third in agreement. I'm appalled at those people who think the buying of women's bodies is as legitimate as buying a loaf of bread. The likes of Billy Bragg and Owen Jones love to be photographed with sex workers, but would they want their mother, sister or other female relative to take part?

Yes i agree, you know I am useless at starting threads .
It is the progressives misogyny. Obviously prostitution is not for them or their daughters but for those women over there it's fine.

We are in agreement on that Galaxy.

The Green Party has imo reprehensible policies on ‘sex work, trans and drugs. It’s worth it’s own thread

It is also important to say that consensual sex is a completely different thing to buying consent.
I loathe what the progressives have done about prostitution 'sex work is work'. No it really isnt.

My reading and sociology (family and close friends ) suggests young people have always been interested in sex and curious about gradually learning, often with a regular trusted companion,

My impression is that pre pill/effective contraception, ‘respectable ‘ middle and working class girls were very careful as a pregnancy before marriage was a Big Deal. Posh girls and the opposite end of the class structure were more knowledgable about avoiding or terminating pregnancies,

David49

"In my day" - late 1960s nice girls didn't do casual sex, a long protracted courtship was the rule, a girl with a known "history" was passed by. Im sure it was different in cities but rural areas were pretty traditional, in my case when granny approved of me I knew I was onto a winner.
Our daughters 20 yrs later all shacked up with boyfriends at 18 and stayed with them, not many do that these days.

Well, I was at university in the early 1960s and life at university was considerably racier than you suggest even then. The pill was just coming in towards the end of my university years
but university or no university, there were plenty of shotgun weddings. among students and those 'good' girls who stayed home.

In fact fewer shotgun marriages among students because most of them used their intelligence to make best use of the contraceptives that were available.

From everything I have read, from the 1930s onward, sex outside marriage was far more common than parents and elders liked to think.

David49

"In my day" - late 1960s nice girls didn't do casual sex, a long protracted courtship was the rule, a girl with a known "history" was passed by. Im sure it was different in cities but rural areas were pretty traditional, in my case when granny approved of me I knew I was onto a winner.
Our daughters 20 yrs later all shacked up with boyfriends at 18 and stayed with them, not many do that these days.

I don't think it was just rural areas that might have been a bit different with the "rules".

I was in a city - it was the early 1970s basically when I started dating. That city was/is a university city/modern/makes a semi-joke of being "6 months behind London" and that sounds about accurate to me that that was how we were thinking as late as the 1970s.

The only time I got gobsmacked by other peoples lives then was when a man turned up at the grotty house of bedsits I lived in with his heavily pregnant sister demanding to know where a male occupant was - as they wanted a shotgun marriage or something. Gobsmacked me was calculating how long the Pill and legal abortion had been around (ie some years at that point) and thinking words to the effect of "What the Heck? It's not the 1950s. I've read about incidents like this in historical fiction".

Young people have always had sex outside of marriage throughout the ages - even when the opportunity was very limited.

These days marriage only seems to be considered once children are thought of and even then not always.

butterandjam

David49

"In my day" - late 1960s nice girls didn't do casual sex, a long protracted courtship was the rule, a girl with a known "history" was passed by. Im sure it was different in cities but rural areas were pretty traditional, in my case when granny approved of me I knew I was onto a winner.
Our daughters 20 yrs later all shacked up with boyfriends at 18 and stayed with them, not many do that these days.

@David49

Yes we did. I'd been using the contraceptive pill since 1965 , so had most of the undergrads I knew.

We were having sex with nice men, too.

I did hear that at the time that Universities were more liberal away from home, which of course is usual today. If that way inclined of course.

David49

"In my day" - late 1960s nice girls didn't do casual sex, a long protracted courtship was the rule, a girl with a known "history" was passed by. Im sure it was different in cities but rural areas were pretty traditional, in my case when granny approved of me I knew I was onto a winner.
Our daughters 20 yrs later all shacked up with boyfriends at 18 and stayed with them, not many do that these days.

@David49

Yes we did. I'd been using the contraceptive pill since 1965 , so had most of the undergrads I knew.

We were having sex with nice men, too.

Iam64

Whitewave - yes. It was if memory serves, sold to a Sheik for 3 million over value. I wonder if that coincided with him being trade envoy

Yes, that sale (15 million) was during his decade as trade envoy.

Ah yes, how do you get your statistics?
But 10% still seems too high.

Sorry David you ve not got that quite right I was living with my then boyfriend ( later husband) in 1964 and I wasnt in a city