Future of the Monarchy

Maremia

I still like SORES' explanation, for keeping the Royal Family. Was it on this Thread?

I don’t know but likely. It was thought provoking wasn’t it?

Rosie51

Well I once had a very astute teacher who said those that think they know it all usually know nothing of any worth. When you have to blow your own trumpet on an anonymous internet forum, it really is rather sad. I take real life accolades as far more valuable.

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Yes, and a little modesty is always appreciated too.

Whitewavemark2

Maremia

Does this mean that the police investigation is now over?

Windsor has been released on bail, with certain restrictions on him to ensure risk is as low as possible. As he is, apparently, being treated exactly like all other people of interest to the police, he will st minimum have to report into the nearest police station periodically.

The investigation now begins and will in all probability take months and months. One thing I think we can be pretty certain about is that there will be no leaks.

He was not released on bail and does not have to report to a police station.

He was "released under investigation"

in other words the police investigation is not over.

mk-law.co.uk/what-happens-when-youre-ruid/

RUI is most likely I think.

LemonJam

WWM2: 23.51 "Windsor has been released on bail"

Not as I understand it....he was RUI- therefore free to go about his business with no conditions applied.

Oh mixed information?

I still like SORES' explanation, for keeping the Royal Family. Was it on this Thread?

LemonJam, I read and learn thanks
WhiteWave, also thanks.

A has had opportunity over the years to behave differently , to help the police /FBI. He has continually failed to do this. If he is being kicked whilst he’s down, then he’s the one who put himself in the gutter.

WWM2: 23.51 "Windsor has been released on bail"

Not as I understand it....he was RUI- therefore free to go about his business with no conditions applied.

"I don't think you understand. The police escort was probably to avoid public disturbance, a breach of the peace or other reasons which we do not know"

Allira: 22.25 "Didn't seem so so hence the explanation. Please ignore if you know more about the procedure after being questioned by the police than me."

Maremia: 23.00 "Does this mean that the police investigation is now over?"

Rosie51: 23.03 "I wouldn't think so Maremia but they can only hold a suspect for so long without charges. I expect they're still pouring over the mountains of paperwork etc".

It's been reported in the press the investigation ( various strands) are ongoing. Whilst in custody, a higher rank officer in the station will review the detained person routinely periodically- once under 6 hrs, 6 hrs, 9 hrs etc. plus there will be cell checks periodically. Purpose- duty of care- plus to assess how the interview timescale is progressing as there is a 24 "clock" they want to beat.

To detain someone in police custody over 24 hours up to 36 hours (they are not yet found guilty and their freedom has been restricted), the offence must be indictable and it must be necessary to secure/preserve evidence and authorised by an inspector or higher rank. To extend detention after 36 hours a warrant from a Magistrates Court (ie a court hearing in a public setting to extend further to a maximum of 96 hours. Plus police need to ensure detained person DP, has rest of 8 hours ( to sleep) whilst in custody. Hence AMW arrested around 8 am and released more or less 12 hours later when coming up to rest period. No further detention extension sought at this stage.
Terrorism cases slightly different- can hold up to 14 gas without charge following special judicial authorisation. Mental Health Act powers also need to be taken into consideration.

Police are subject to PACE- Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 and must follow certain procedures on release. They must consider whether continued detention is necessary in context of risk management and welfare of the detainee- the overarching Principe being detention is the last resort and individuals should be released if grounds for detention no longer exist. they conduct a vulnerability assessment to consider mental health issues, physical illnesses , injuries risk of self harm, suicide etc. They must also consider safety of individual on release and risk of harm e.g. potential exploitation, victimisation ( in this case known presence of media). they must also consider safe transportation to get DP back home.

AMW, by the way he presented in the published release photo= shell shocked- required support and safe transportation home. He had access to drivers and staff and they were able to come and collect him- as I understand. He was arrested and arrived in a marked police car but did not wish for or require a police escort and left in an unmarked car.

Various decisions are made and formalised on release:
1) NFA- no further action.
2) Released under investigation, RUI,
3) Pre Charge Bail ( Conditional or Unconditional) and custody officer must consider any representations made by suspect or legal representative regarding bail conditions.

gin if all those other countries are so envious why aren't the public in those countries lobbying for a royal family of their own?
Answer: they aren’t , they know its all a load of nonsense , they just like to gawp and gossip

Good night, sleep tight.

Rosie51

And there she goes again, that pathetic emoji.......

I'm confident about the areas of my knowledge I don't have to boast on an anonymous internet forum. I don't suffer from either false modesty or baseless boasting but you do you.

Oh dear - you are sailing a little bit close to the wind. Getting a bit personal Good night

I am not a great lover of the royal family but do think we need a head of state with no political alliance. Have those of you who are so vitriolic in your dislike of royalty ever wondered what it is like to be constantly on show, to display no preferences and having to keep your views to yourself? Yes they have money but what a life!

The only royal I have met is Princess Ann. She was down to earth, extremely well informed and with great charm. Her voice is not at all ‘posh’ and she is likeable. We do need such ambassadors.
It is strange but from Japan to Russia and Germany, the royals, their lifestyle, clothes and aura are greatly envied. This does bring many here as tourist, creating jobs and income. They have much private wealth which perhaps they should use staff and maintain their private residences. Whether this currently is the case I do not know,

Yes we would survive quite happily as a republic but without the shine and the newspapers would all fold with no royal gossip!

Maremia

Does this mean that the police investigation is now over?

Windsor has been released on bail, with certain restrictions on him to ensure risk is as low as possible. As he is, apparently, being treated exactly like all other people of interest to the police, he will st minimum have to report into the nearest police station periodically.

The investigation now begins and will in all probability take months and months. One thing I think we can be pretty certain about is that there will be no leaks.

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Yes both photographs were brutal Tuliptree, for me the photograph of Andrew in police car was too,

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Well Rosie if people don’t know the difference then I’m not sure how helpful that is . And yes, I am extremely knowledgable about a whole range of issues - thanks for noticing.

I’ve been thinking about truly brutal press photos that have stayed with me over the years. One was Gordon Kaye ( ‘Allo ‘Allo) who was in hospital after a serious accident. Two scumbag reporters lied their way into his hospital room and took unauthorised photos of him which appeared on the front pages next day. And secondly the heartbreaking photo of Sarah and Gordon Brown in the back of a car being driven away from the hospital after the death of their baby daughter. None of us had the moral right to see either of their photos That’s brutal Annie

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Rosie51

Arresting someone of 'suspicion of' is not the same as being charged with an offence.

Does anyone on this thread still not understand this?

I don't know, you tell me. You seem to be the fountain of all knowledge.

*should have been 'on' not 'of' in my original post, surprised you didn't pick me up on that, missed a chance there.

Rosie51

Arresting someone of 'suspicion of' is not the same as being charged with an offence.

Does anyone on this thread still not understand this?

Maremia

Does this mean that the police investigation is now over?

No he’s been released ‘under investigation’ . They are still searching his properties.

Arresting someone of 'suspicion of' is not the same as being charged with an offence.