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Now we know for sure we should not be in the Iran war.

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 10-Mar-26 08:29:31

Tony Blair has said that the U.K. should have gone into the war with the USA on day 1.

Smileless2012 Tue 10-Mar-26 11:33:46

It's an illegal war and giving permission for our bases to be used from day one would have been condoning it.

Oreo Tue 10-Mar-26 11:33:15

Iran made a big mistake in attacking all its neighbours.

Smileless2012 Tue 10-Mar-26 11:32:17

'Who is the biggest fool? The fool that leads or the fool that follows'.

Oreo Tue 10-Mar-26 11:32:06

It’s scary MarthavTaurus what’s been allowed to happen to UK Navy.

Oreo Tue 10-Mar-26 11:30:39

Supporting the US more strongly would only have meant giving permission for our bases to be used from day one.
Not bombing Iran.
Iran see no difference between the UK and the US anyway which is why there are so many Islamist terror attacks here.

MartavTaurus Tue 10-Mar-26 11:30:28

Oreo

HMS Dragon won’t be going for a few more days yet.

Why are we never action ready?
It's not like we only work from 9 - 5 , 5 days a week on our defence machinery, is it?

butterandjam Tue 10-Mar-26 11:29:40

Whitewavemark2

And don’t forget he is a member of The Board Of Peace.

Keeping his job on TBOP explains why he made the statement.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_Peace

OMG :-(((

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MartavTaurus Tue 10-Mar-26 11:28:41

France is making us look a bit silly, on purpose in Cyprus

Macron is throwing his weight around at home too - visiting nuclear sites, (Brest last week, Dieppe this week).

It seems they/we are all getting dragged into the situation one way or another.

Oreo Tue 10-Mar-26 11:28:05

HMS Dragon won’t be going for a few more days yet.

AGAA4 Tue 10-Mar-26 11:26:34

The government is saying we are not at war but will Iran see it that way?

Smileless2012 Tue 10-Mar-26 11:26:26

Which is why when Starmer initially said 'no' to America using our bases, he should have stuck to it AGA.

AGAA4 Tue 10-Mar-26 11:23:38

We are at war with Iran thanks to Trump. A war that most of us didn't want. Nor it seems did many US citizens.
Why are we involved in a war between Israel and Iran. There was no danger to us or the US.
The reasons for starting this war were flimsy at best.

Smileless2012 Tue 10-Mar-26 11:23:30

Thank you WW.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 10-Mar-26 11:19:27

More Chat GPT information

Here’s what the UK is actually doing in the Iran conflict right now, and how close it is to being “in the war.”

🇬🇧 The UK is not officially at war with Iran

Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Britain would not join the US-Israel offensive strikes against Iran. The government wants to avoid repeating mistakes from the Iraq War. 

Instead, Britain says its actions are “defensive.” 

✈️ What British forces are actually doing

1. Air defence and patrols

The UK has deployed aircraft and defence systems to the region, including:
•Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets
•Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II jets
•radar and counter-drone systems

They are flying patrols and helping defend Gulf allies from missiles and drones. 

British forces have shot down Iranian drones in places like Jordan, Qatar, and Iraq. 

2. Allowing the US to use British bases

The UK has allowed the United States to use certain British bases, including RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus, for limited strikes against Iranian missiles and launch sites. 

But the government says those bases cannot be used for broader attacks inside Iran. 

3. Naval and military presence

Britain has deployed some assets but far fewer than the US or France:
•The destroyer HMS Dragon (D35) is heading to the eastern Mediterranean. 
•The aircraft carrier HMS Prince of Wales (R09) was considered but will not be sent to the Middle East. 

💣 Risks for the UK

Even without formally joining the war, Britain is already being drawn in because:
•UK bases in Cyprus have been targeted by drones linked to Iranian allies. 
•Around 300,000 British citizens live or travel in the region, which the UK may need to protect or evacuate. 

✅ In simple terms:
•The UK is not bombing Iran.
•But it is supporting allies defensively, shooting down drones, and letting the US use some bases.
•Critics like Tony Blair think Britain should support the US more strongly, while the government is trying to stay limited.

Smileless2012 Tue 10-Mar-26 11:19:03

Yes, they attacked our base in Cyprus after Starmer gave Trump permission to use our bases.

Oreo Tue 10-Mar-26 11:17:20

I fully agree with what Blair said then.

Oreo Tue 10-Mar-26 11:16:07

Iran have attacked our base in Cyprus and we have a duty to the Island as well as other bases and our allies in that area.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 10-Mar-26 11:15:31

Chat GPT

Recently, Tony Blair said the UK should have supported the United States from the start of the Iran war, and criticised the more cautious approach of Prime Minister Keir Starmer. 

What Blair said

At a private event hosted by Jewish News, Blair reportedly argued that Britain should have backed the U.S. military action against Iran immediately. He said:
•The UK “should have backed America from the very beginning.” 
•The U.S. is “an indispensable ally” for Britain’s security. 
•When the U.S. asks for help, “you had better show up.” 

He also suggested the UK should have allowed U.S. forces to use British bases for refuelling and support operations earlier in the conflict. 

Why it caused controversy
•Blair’s comments were seen as criticising Starmer for hesitating before allowing limited cooperation with the U.S. 
•Some ministers pushed back, saying the government had learned lessons from the Iraq War and was being more cautious about military involvement. 

Current UK position (briefly)

The UK has not fully joined offensive strikes but has allowed some cooperation with the U.S. and is conducting defensive operations in the region. 

In short: Blair argues Britain should have backed the U.S. Iran war immediately and been more openly supportive of Washington, while the current government is taking a more limited and cautious approach.

Smileless2012 Tue 10-Mar-26 11:13:08

I disagree Oreo, he shouldn't have given his permission at all and I think saying later that they could be used for 'defensive purposes', was to placate Trump having initially said 'no'.

Oreo Tue 10-Mar-26 11:11:46

Also sensing what was coming when the US was building up naval power in that region, we should have sent at least one ship ( I think we only have two action ready anyway!) to defend our bases there.

Oreo Tue 10-Mar-26 11:08:42

Whitewavemark2

Tony Blair has said that the U.K. should have gone into the war with the USA on day 1.

Without knowing exactly what Blair said, all I will say is that Starmer should have given the US permission to use our bases for defensive purposes on day one when asked by them,which he did do a few days later anyway.

Cossy Tue 10-Mar-26 11:02:44

Ooops sorry “how dare he drag us into..”

Cossy Tue 10-Mar-26 11:02:17

AGAA4

Trump's statement saying the war is over was answered by Iran saying the war is over when we say it is.
I don't think Trump has a clue where this is going.

His rhetoric is both dangerous and untrue.

I just do not understand how he is so easily “played” by Netanyahu and Putin.

How dare he brag us into this ridiculous and pointless war!

Cossy Tue 10-Mar-26 11:00:34

Fallingstar

Blair is someone who really should retire and go away and shut up.

Yes!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 10-Mar-26 10:51:06

Yougov Poll U.K.

59% oppose the war

25% support it.

I am confident that if this war continues opposition will grow.