Trump & latest NATO threat 😱

Fallingstar

Christian Nationalism/Evangelism is another form of religious extremism akin to Islamist extremism, inasmuch as it is all about violence, intolerance, and hatred. It doesn’t even have a nodding acquaintance with mainstream Christianity or Islam and is, as the Pope has made clear, abhorred by the faithful.

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Whitewavemark2

Iranian/Persian culture is one of the oldest cultures on earth - dating back at least 7000 years. It is thought that this region saw the first time humans became farmers as apposed to Hunter gatherers, which dates back 12000 years.

The Persians are very proud of their cultural history and with good reason.

So I’m afraid it shows a degree of ignorance on Trumps part - well more than a degree😄😄

IMHO, Trump appears to be completely ignorant about 95% of everything, and simply rides roughshod over the other 5% because he can

He’s seems to have a level of emotional intelligence of a 4 year old, the tantrums of a toddler and hasn’t even learned the rudimentary just because we can, doesn’t mean we should He does have support of some of his own citizens, mainly, it appears, from the very rich, the ultra powerful, the extreme religious christian originations and the very very gullible/uneducated redneck types. There are still many millions of good, hard working Americans who loathe and detest (and no doubt fear) their own POTUS.

I don't believe Iran would ever have stopped its nuclear bomb project whatever it agreed to in a limitation treaty. The regime's threats to wipe Israel off the Earth, their murderous attitude to their own citizens and their sponsorship of terrorism in the world show the theocratic, corrupt regime is untrustworthy. I'm not at all sure any peace plan will deliver safety.

Grantanow

I don't believe Iran would ever have stopped its nuclear bomb project whatever it agreed to in a limitation treaty. The regime's threats to wipe Israel off the Earth, their murderous attitude to their own citizens and their sponsorship of terrorism in the world show the theocratic, corrupt regime is untrustworthy. I'm not at all sure any peace plan will deliver safety.

Grantanow nukes are a deterrent not a weapon of choice. Israel has nukes and has regularly said it wants to wipe Iran off the face of the Earth, but it won’t use Nukes. Northern Korea has them and won’t use them either.
If Iran had nukes the present war would not have taken place.
India and Pakistan have a long history of conflict but India won’t hit Pakistan because it has nukes.
The regime is horrible and capable of many acts of brutality against its is people but like other nations if it had nukes it wouldn’t use them. Any nation that uses nukes knows it will be curtains for their own country. So even the maddest/craziest dictators will not use them. And I include Trump in that.

Grantanow

I don't believe Iran would ever have stopped its nuclear bomb project whatever it agreed to in a limitation treaty. The regime's threats to wipe Israel off the Earth, their murderous attitude to their own citizens and their sponsorship of terrorism in the world show the theocratic, corrupt regime is untrustworthy. I'm not at all sure any peace plan will deliver safety.

I agree

I think you’re quite wrong on that subject Fallingstar

The mullahs that rule Iran don’t see death for themselves as normal people do, using nuclear weapons against a country they hate would absolutely be something they would do.

I agree with Fallingstar. Iran know that if they nuked Israel the US and others would respond. This could mean that China and Russia could become involved.
Nukes flying everywhere would be the end.

Oreo

I think you’re quite wrong on that subject Fallingstar

You mean you disagree, I actually agree with fallingstar.

Lots of countries have developed nuclear weapons, if one goes off, we all go off, we are all dead, or a living dead or dreadfully deformed.

Trump was entirely wrong with his assault on Iran.

I agree with you too Fallingstar, they are a deterant. Does anyone really believe Trump would have attacked Iran if Iran had a nuclear weapon? I don't.

Smileless2012

What infuriated me was seeing an interview with Mark Rutte, Secretary State of NATO, saying after his 'behind closed doors' meeting with Trump, that he understood where he was coming from!!! .

Doesn't Rutte know that NATO members act to defend a fellow member when they're attacked, not to join in an illegal war started by a member of NATO?

He should have explained to Trump in words of no more than two syllables what being a member of NATO means.

As far as I'm concerned Trump and his cronies can take their threats and put them where the sun doesn't shine.

Exactly ! Spain shall not give them 1 Euro Cent for that illegal war.

Agree with Smileless2012 ..

Are you also aware that The Lebanese Coast & The Gaza Coast have Trump Hotel Resorts planned ?

And that is why the Israeli government continues to bomb these two places ..

It’s ok for this madman to have nuclear weapons though!

My thoughts too Geordiegirl
Who on earth would give Trump the code to the nuclear weapons armoury ?

For any one that’s open minded this is very long but very interesting. Could have a lot of the answers to what Trump is trying to achieve. I’m not saying it’s good or bad just thought provoking
youtu.be/xrmERlHUqBk?si=eyWpgJ1s5czorp3G

Hope there is a 'fail safe' procedure in the USA, that would intervene if someone decides it was time to press the button.

Susieq62

My thoughts too Geordiegirl
Who on earth would give Trump the code to the nuclear weapons armoury ?

Not I!

Menopauselbitch

For any one that’s open minded this is very long but very interesting. Could have a lot of the answers to what Trump is trying to achieve. I’m not saying it’s good or bad just thought provoking
youtu.be/xrmERlHUqBk?si=eyWpgJ1s5czorp3G

Thank you for this, I won’t be watching, not because I do NOT have an open mind, I do, however I simply cannot watch anything more which even slightly puts a good slant on anything Trump has done in either of his terms as POTUS.

In his first term he overturned almost everything Obama put in place for Mr/Mrs Normal/Average.

In this current term he has insulted almost every nation’s leaders, directly, outrightly insulted the Pope, attempted to take over Greenland and Canada, started and continued an illegal war on Iran, pretended to have worked on stopping the fighting in both Gaza and Ukraine, openly supported his own ICE staff murdering people in the open streets, pardoned violent prisoners, been found guilty of various felons…. and on and on it goes.

I simply cannot find ANYTHING positive or productive to say about him and I just don’t wish to listen to anyone, anywhere, at any time, praising him or explaining his objectives.

Sorry, that’s simply how I feel about him!

Gave up on this after a minute. Rambling, disjointed, lacking focus.

Isn't it about time NATO tells Trump what it really thinks? Why should NATO and the world keep sucking up to this impetious spoilt child of a man? They are fed up of his insults and threats. This President, along with Israel started an illegal war and expects all to fall in line with the decision he and Netanyahu took without consulting them. I feel sorry for the US soldiers he is sending to an unnecessary war. Why don't he send Barron or his two other sons?

Actually I watched and listened to the Professor form beginning to end- I did indeed find it thought provoking.

He certainly doesn’t think of his party and those who voted for him, only himself

Whitewavemark2

The question is academic. But supporting Trump does not seem a sensible strategy to me at any stage.

Exactly! He is a poisonous blob! If Iran decided to use a nuclear bomb they would be stupid … and vicious and aggressive the Revolutionary Guard might be, they are not Stupid… unlike Trump!
He started an illegal war without telling any Allies ( at the behest of Netanyahu probably) and is now in a worse position than before he started!

Cossy

Menopauselbitch

For any one that’s open minded this is very long but very interesting. Could have a lot of the answers to what Trump is trying to achieve. I’m not saying it’s good or bad just thought provoking
youtu.be/xrmERlHUqBk?si=eyWpgJ1s5czorp3G

Thank you for this, I won’t be watching, not because I do NOT have an open mind, I do, however I simply cannot watch anything more which even slightly puts a good slant on anything Trump has done in either of his terms as POTUS.

In his first term he overturned almost everything Obama put in place for Mr/Mrs Normal/Average.

In this current term he has insulted almost every nation’s leaders, directly, outrightly insulted the Pope, attempted to take over Greenland and Canada, started and continued an illegal war on Iran, pretended to have worked on stopping the fighting in both Gaza and Ukraine, openly supported his own ICE staff murdering people in the open streets, pardoned violent prisoners, been found guilty of various felons…. and on and on it goes.

I simply cannot find ANYTHING positive or productive to say about him and I just don’t wish to listen to anyone, anywhere, at any time, praising him or explaining his objectives.

Sorry, that’s simply how I feel about him!

Cossy

A good summing up Trump's second term as POTUS.

Is he the most disastrous POTUS ever?

Now Trump says he's blocking the Strait of Hormuz - but isn't it blocked anyway? Maybe Trump doesn't think it's blocked quite enough.........what are this idiot's thought processes?

I don’t think Trump has ever studied world history, politics or geography. Someone should explain to him that the NA in NATO stands for North Atlantic (defence of), not the Middle East.