Racist rapist of Sikh woman in Walsall

Allira

What a disgusting specimen he is.

A minimum sentence of 14 years is nothing although, of course, he may not be released after that time.
Why are these short sentences known as 'life sentences'.

If he says he regrets his past, has reformed and will live a good life in future, members of a Parole Board may believe him and he could be released on licence.

Life should mean life. He has destroyed this woman's life.

I agree with you.

HAs anybody got a link to the judge's sentencing comments?

foxie48

It is totally beyond me why anyone would want to turn this post into one about race. Do we have a hierachy of evil in this country? Is it less evil for a black or brown woman to be raped than a white woman? Are black or brown rapists more evil than white rapists? Is the difference in colour or religion of a rapist and his victim relevant? Surely not! Well at least in my world they are not. They are all either perpetrators or victims regardless of colour, race or religion.

The rapist used Islamophobic insults when he was raping her. Although she is Sikh, he thought she was Muslim. That's why racism is relevant, but it is interesting that people only seem to want to discuss Muslim rapists and/or "two tier policing".

Why do people keep wanting to discuss rapes only if they've been committed by immigrants? (It seems like that anyway!)

Primrose53

sundowngirl

A just sentence for an appalling crime, but we need life to mean life
Let’s hope the three disgusting asylum seekers who raped the girl on Brighton beach and filmed themselves doing it, get similar sentences

Don’t hold your breath sundowngirl!

This is another example of two tier sentencing. It was a disgusting crime and he is a complete animal BUT so were the hundreds of Asian grooming gang members and some of them are out of prison already after very light sentences.

Remember too, not only did they rape these girls but they drugged them, got some pregnant, physically and mentally abused them and called them “white trash”. This went on for months and years not just a horrific one off. No sentence is long enough for those vile men either.

Are you saying it's unfair that this man has been given a life sentence just because he's white British?

Disgusting man.

foxie, its relevant inasmuch as he did it because he thought she was Muslim.

He should have got far longer imo.

Yes, I agree Cossy they are good suggestions. I do think many prisoners could be "rehabilitated" with those resources. I can't see it happening easily, resource wise.

But not men like this. and the racist element in my personal opinion makes it worse. Its to scare others.

It is totally beyond me why anyone would want to turn this post into one about race. Do we have a hierachy of evil in this country? Is it less evil for a black or brown woman to be raped than a white woman? Are black or brown rapists more evil than white rapists? Is the difference in colour or religion of a rapist and his victim relevant? Surely not! Well at least in my world they are not. They are all either perpetrators or victims regardless of colour, race or religion.

If you look it up you will see that these abominations were given commensurate sentences.

Primrose , two rapists of the Rotherham gang of groomers were sentenced to a total of 40 years.

sundowngirl

A just sentence for an appalling crime, but we need life to mean life
Let’s hope the three disgusting asylum seekers who raped the girl on Brighton beach and filmed themselves doing it, get similar sentences

Don’t hold your breath sundowngirl!

This is another example of two tier sentencing. It was a disgusting crime and he is a complete animal BUT so were the hundreds of Asian grooming gang members and some of them are out of prison already after very light sentences.

Remember too, not only did they rape these girls but they drugged them, got some pregnant, physically and mentally abused them and called them “white trash”. This went on for months and years not just a horrific one off. No sentence is long enough for those vile men either.

Excellent post, Cossy at 14.51.

Bit of an oxymoron. Life =14 years.
Life sentences should be exactly that. That poor girl is the one with the life sentence. I suppose in 14 years he will be able to pull the wool over someone's eyes and be out on the streets. The same streets that are supposed to be safer for women.

A just sentence for an appalling crime, but we need life to mean life
Let’s hope the three disgusting asylum seekers who raped the girl on Brighton beach and filmed themselves doing it, get similar sentences

For those who haven't Googled Kate Nevens, here is a nugget of what she'd like to see if Scottish Greens got elected:

Kate Nevens - who is standing on the Edinburgh and Lothians East regional list - says she is "keen to live in a Scotland" with no jails.
Scottish Green co-leader Gillian Mackay, backing "fundamental reform", said prisons would still required in the "short term" to house violent offenders.

In a video posted on Instagram, external, she described herself as a prison "abolitionist" who wants "to see the complete abolition" of the prison system in Scotland.
Nevens said: "Prisons are not safe, they're violent, they're poor for people's health and wellbeing, particularly if you're a woman. And they fail to support rehabilitation.
She called for work to tackle the the "root causes" of crime - citing trauma and inequality.

Doubling down on her views in a later post, Nevens said she was "still keen to live in a Scotland with no prisons".

twaddle

Frankly, it seems irrelevant - it won't ever happen I'm just appalled by the actual crime and that this vile creature lived amongst us for so long.

It's not the first time he has assaulted a woman although this was far worse.

Apparently he sexually assaulted a woman in the street because 'he felt frustrated'.
Perhaps chemical castration might help with that.

What a disgusting specimen he is.

A minimum sentence of 14 years is nothing although, of course, he may not be released after that time.
Why are these short sentences known as 'life sentences'.

If he says he regrets his past, has reformed and will live a good life in future, members of a Parole Board may believe him and he could be released on licence.

Life should mean life. He has destroyed this woman's life.

Frankly, it seems irrelevant - it won't ever happen I'm just appalled by the actual crime and that this vile creature lived amongst us for so long.

twaddle

TerriBull

Google Scottish Green candidate Kate Nevens on that

Thanks for the info. I don't suppose she's in the majority.

I've no idea how much support she would have with her Green colleagues. I just wonder how anyone would rationalise such a stance when such an act of deliberate wickedness such as this appalling rape has been committed. How do they imagine the victim would feel or in the case of Sarah Everard, her family, if the perpetrator was not punished? I wonder what the Kate Nevens of this world would do with such people, I personally don't believe all criminals can be rehabilitated and I also think the worst type of crime, not shoplifters, but murderers, rapists etc should lose their liberty for what they inflict on their victim.

He's obviously a disgusting human being. Moreover, he's not very bright. He thought his victim was a Muslim and apparently asked where her hijab was when he was shown a picture of her. So what turned him into such a racist? One who thought it was perfectly OK to rape Muslim women?

Locked away for the safety of women! Not kicked away… On the other hand 🧐🤨

I agree, this is an awful crime and I believe this man will always be a danger to women, so for the safety of woman he should be kicked away for a very very long time.

I don’t think prison should be abolished, but I do think prisons and sentencing needs review and reform.

What I’d like to see is better and more probation officers (not private companies either), all following the same training and more standardised procedures.

I would like to see more residential drug and alcohol units and those convicted of crimes around these areas, ie low level dealing, possession etc put into these units for complete addiction rehab.

I’d also not imprison any non violent crimes. I’d like to see reparation sentences and community services (or unpaid work as it seems to be called now)

I’d like to see all proven proceeds of crime confiscated and large fines imposed on those who have made a co good living from crime.

I’d like to see everyone who’s been involved in child abuse, sexual or violent or fatalities locked away forever.

I’d put more prison officers into prisons and I’d want to see every prisoner working for a large proportion of their days, with decent accommodation and food and earning any privileges, which would automatically be removed should they abuse the system or break the rules.

I’d make outside in the open air and exercise compulsory and a massive crackdown on the alcohol and drugs which seems to be smuggled in on a daily basis.

Our prison and sentencing system just doesn’t work and too many criminals re-offend at all levels of crime.

People would be alive today had violent criminals not been released.

TerriBull

Google Scottish Green candidate Kate Nevens on that

Thanks for the info. I don't suppose she's in the majority.

Google Scottish Green candidate Kate Nevens on that

TerriBull

An appalling crime. I agree GG lets hope this monster spends the rest of his life behind bars. It would be shocking to think he could come out after a decade or so. I'd also ask those who think that prisons should be abolished what they'd do with individuals such as this person and Wayne Couzens.

I've never come across anybody who thinks prisons should be abolished.

An appalling crime. I agree GG lets hope this monster spends the rest of his life behind bars. It would be shocking to think he could come out after a decade or so. I'd also ask those who think that prisons should be abolished what they'd do with individuals such as this person and Wayne Couzens.

This was an awful assault and rape, life should mean life!