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Trump and the death penalty

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Cossy Sun 07-Jun-26 12:22:55

From The Mirror this morning.

These people are already on death row, how do you all feel about the below:-

“US Army prepares for first military executions in 50 years awaiting Trump order
The US Army is drawing up plans to carry out four military executions of death row inmates for the first time in more than 50 years, pending approval from President Donald Trump.

The US Army is preparing to conduct four executions should President Donald Trump issue the command, according to an internal planning document seen by ABC News.

The plan, if implemented, would represent the first occasion the military has executed convicted American prisoners in more than half a century. "Operation Resolute Justice" instructs Army officials to liaise with the Federal Bureau of Prisons to move condemned inmates from the US Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, to the federal execution facility in Terre Haute, Indiana.“

Personally, I simply don’t agree with the death penalty, however horrific the crime, it doesn’t act as a deterrent and I, imo, just find this act quite ironic, committing a murder to punish a murderer for breaking the law by murdering someone? 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

I do believe some crimes mean that individual should never be free to walk and work alongside the rest of society.

What do you fine folk think and feel about this?

Perhaps a better option is to give these criminals the opportunity to choose between whole life imprisonment, with some form of work being done or the means to take their own lives?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/us-army-first-military-executions-37259419?utm_campaign=communities&utm_medium=social&utm_source=whatsapp

Maremia Mon 08-Jun-26 07:34:54

That appears to have been tbe first time a Reporter pushed back.
Maybe it could happen more often?

Ladyleftfieldlover Mon 08-Jun-26 07:20:26

I do not support the death penalty. For the most dreadful crimes such as the murder of children, round the clock solitary confinement would be fitting. I believe that the USA is the only civilised country in the world to have the death penalty.

It should be obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that trump is now certifiable. He knows the midterms in November will go badly for the Republicans and he can’t have that.

Did anyone see the interview he gave yesterday which he walked out of? After being incredibly rude to the female interviewer.

It is going to take many years for the USA to recover from this dreadful man and his acolytes.

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 08-Jun-26 07:03:41

You are correct, Macaydia. The USA incarcerates more of its' citizens pro rata, for longer, and with dismal recidivism results.
Perhaps they could learn from Norway?

Maremia Mon 08-Jun-26 07:02:20

Think of all the people who have been wrongly imprisoned.
If the death penalty had been used, they would have had no recompense.
Think of some of the reasons why 'criminals' are executed in other countries.
Women, for adultery, men for homosexuality.
I don't agree with the death penalty.

imaround Mon 08-Jun-26 02:15:49

I had heard that the Federal Government was trying to go back to firing squads, gas chambers and electrocution as well.

Barbaric.

He can choose one of those when he is convicted and sentenced.

(Though I see the the Tech Billionaires (Theil IIRC) are starting to move to Argentina.)

FWIW, it cost more to put someone to death in this country than to keep them imprisoned for life. 2.5 x 5 times more, in the millions of dollars per person.

Wyllow3 Sun 07-Jun-26 23:06:03

🤬 Trump is all, what people say.

No, I could not support the death penalty tho at times I have felt like it. It's not just the risks of mistakes, nor even whether its a deterrent.

Its being a society that is potentially - a government like Trump can come in and can change the laws bad enough already once we accept the principle: meeting violence back with violence, is it good for us all?

MayBee70 Sun 07-Jun-26 22:55:54

My father in law had to preside over hanging. That’s all I’m prepared to say other than I’m totally opposed to the death penalty sad.

MissAdventure Sun 07-Jun-26 22:15:38

The very worst, only.
Abduction and killing children, the kind of crimes committed by fhe Wests, The moors murderers.
Sustained torturing of victims, the crimes committed by ian Watkins. .

MollyNew Sun 07-Jun-26 22:11:31

MissAdventure

I support the death penalty.

For what offences?

MissAdventure Sun 07-Jun-26 21:37:13

I support the death penalty.

foxie48 Sun 07-Jun-26 21:35:55

I am totally against the death penalty, it is barbaric and totally wrong regardless of the crime. Trump is deranged but I also suspect there is another agenda behind this.

Cossy Sun 07-Jun-26 21:11:50

boheminan

To me, this is a very emotive subject. I would passionately fight against the death penalty in this country...

but knowing if anyone had in anyway hurt (or heaven forbid) murdered a child of mine, I would happily have killed them myself.

I think we’d all react this way! I know I would.

It’s a very normal, emotional reaction that few actually act on.

boheminan Sun 07-Jun-26 20:41:08

To me, this is a very emotive subject. I would passionately fight against the death penalty in this country...

but knowing if anyone had in anyway hurt (or heaven forbid) murdered a child of mine, I would happily have killed them myself.

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 07-Jun-26 14:45:24

I am opposed to the death penalty.
As others here, I think that it is quite a different ask from those joining the forces with the aim of defending one's country, to becoming an executioner of a countryman/ woman.

Iam64 Sun 07-Jun-26 14:29:41

Macaydia. I’ve read the executions in American prisons sometimes go wrong and death is painful and prolonged
Why anyone would want to view this barbaric act is beyond me

Smileless2012 Sun 07-Jun-26 14:18:02

Because with assisted dying, the one whose chosen to do so must administer the drug themselves.

Smileless2012 Sun 07-Jun-26 14:11:20

My understanding is that 27 USA states have the death penalty and that the governor of those states has the final say as to whether the sentence will be carried out or commuted to a life sentence, so I don't see how this could be enforceable.

The last execution by firing squad was carried out in South Colorado on November 14th 2025 at the request of the one being executed.

AGAA4 Sun 07-Jun-26 14:09:25

Another new low for Trump. The death penalty should have ended in all civilised countries now. Does he keep thinking up more ways to damage the reputation of the US.

Executing his own citizens is as bad as the regime in Iran.

Wheniwasyourage Sun 07-Jun-26 14:00:40

Grandma70s

I agree that the perpetrators of some sexual and violent crimes should be incarcerated for life.

The death penalty, though, is always wrong and barbaric. We don’t live in the Middle Ages.

You put it very well, Grandma70s. Just what I was thinking. Thank you.

TerriBull Sun 07-Jun-26 13:46:58

I don't agree with the death penalty, I think some of the methods of execution are positively inhumane, if there ever could be an acceptable way of killing. I do think people who murder, depending on the circumstances, cold blooded killing such as the man who murdered Henry Nowak should lose their liberty for a very long time, it's not good enough that they should be free to live a free life when they're still relatively young having cut short someone else's life.

I don't think the military should be drafted in to be part of an execution squad.

MayBee70 Sun 07-Jun-26 13:25:56

He’s also lifted bans on trophy hunting, too. Is here anything good about this man? Whenever there is talk of executions in America I always think of an excellent film I saw many years ago; The Executioners Song’ starring Tommy Lee Jones, along with, of course, The Green Mile. Dare I ask what colour the condemned people are ( although I think I can guess…). Maybe he wants to cause riots so he can instigate a state of emergency and cancel the mid term elections hmm. With Trump you sometimes have to think outside of the box…

Cossy Sun 07-Jun-26 13:24:17

Iam64

Cossy - I need to remind myself that Trump hasn’t reached top Trump. He can always find something more disgusting to impose

Our history indicates the hangmen had what we’d now see as mental health problems on retiring

He truly is the gift which keeps on giving!

I too feel empathy for the military!

Cossy Sun 07-Jun-26 13:22:29

Maremia

Never mind the effect on the criminal, not being facetious, but what about the effect on the military personnel? To suddenly have to be in an execution squad.
This is a backward and barbaric step.
This President out of control.

I completely agree.

BlueBelle Sun 07-Jun-26 13:21:31

Never, I do not agree with the death penalty at all
How can you punish a murderer by murdering them !!!
It doesn’t make sense
Too many people have been imprisoned that are innocent another reason
The man’s a total narcissistic psychopath I can’t wait for him to disappear

Basgetti Sun 07-Jun-26 13:01:59

Bit behind on the news, read your thread title and immediately thought, to quote the marvellous Fred MCCauley, “what’s the mad b*****d” done now?”

Nothing that lunatic does surprises me any more. He must be making life very difficult for satirists. Nothing they can say will top him.