Preston Davey, another baby P.

rarelymary, did you read my post about the small boy in care who elected to choose adoption by a lesbian couple, as he had suffered at the hands of men in his birth family?

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I mean they won't serve their full sentences in the way huntley didn't serve his full sentence.

I'm sure they will serve out their whole sentence. The one with the 25 minimum will be lucky if he manages to get out after his sentence. There will no doubt be an outcry at the thought of him being released.

They got the sentence they deserved. And it will be a living hell for them. Which pleases me greatly.

With the two trips to hospital , a safeguarding alert raised at one,yet S. W. had no concerns. Absolutely awful. Those two perpetrators are not human.

I don’t agree with capital punishment and I think the ‘honour amongst thieves’ death penalty is wrong as well. As FGT says life without parole is a very long time indeed.

What I never understand about this type of case is how did the perpetrator ever expect to get away with it? Little Preston had had three previous hospital visits whilst in his adopters’ care and one of them even said to the hospital staff that they’d be thinking the men were abusing Preston, he was attending A&E so often. Is it some kind of power trip or what?

It is not that I agree with it Iam64 but I do not think for one moment they will serve their full sentences. So the reality is that it isn't the state who is doing the deed but someone else.

Surely I can’t be alone in wanting justice done here, ie a life sentence to mean just that - as say Ian Bradley and Myra Hindley - without this awful ‘he’ll get what’s coming to him in prison’ mentality?

To be incarcerated for the rest of one’s life IS punishment.

Well deserved but just think about the enormity of that for a few seconds. No chance of parole.

To deprive someone of their lifestyle is indeed a very harsh punishment.

I feel thinking that other prisoners might yet dole out their own form of justice is quite sickening. I take no pleasure in these thoughts.

We either have the death penalty or we do not.

No we haven’t Galaxy, much as some may wish it so. Working in prisons is tough. The last thing we need are vigilantes encouraged to act our murderous fantasies.
The behaviour of these two men is beyond my ability to describe. I understand the horror and anger expressed here, share it but encouraging murder or torture, even against this deprived evil pair won’t solve anything

We have out sourced the death penalty then, to other violent men.

Bridey

Sometimes i think the death penalty would be applicable in these horrific cases.

No because death is an easy way out for these 2 vile men.

One is going to spend the rest of his life terrified of other prisoners and what they will inflict on him. Even prisoners have honour and the child abuser/killer is the lowest of the low.

Think what happened to Ian Huntley. for these two their crimes were so vile. I actually think that they will not survive long. Varley's life sentence will be short because he will be killed by another prisoner in the meanwhile he will suffer daily violence and never be able to relax for fear of what is creeping up on him.

A little angel preyed upon by two evil and depraved individuals who have no right to take a breath without suffering the kind of pain that baby suffered.
I cannot look at his pictures anymore it is just too sad for words

what a beautiful wee boy, what he must have suffered at the hands of these monsters, how many times have we heard of this happening and nothing seems to change, the people who were supposed to be looking out for him can't possibly be doing their job properly or it wouldn't keep happening .

The direct neighbours of the couple said they heard the baby crying more than was usual

Awful.

My misunderstanding, Silvershadow. I assumed that when you were speaking of the " vetting process" you were referring to the adoption checks

He should have stood a chance though Primrose which was why he was put up for adoption. His biological father may be a convicted criminal and drug addict who never met his son, but he'd have known he was being adopted and wouldn't have expected it to go so horribly wrong.

I hoped for a whole life tariff too Sarnia and was pleased at the minimum of 25 years sentence.

Sometimes i think the death penalty would be applicable in these horrific cases.

Tuliptree

Silvershadow

I didn’t say it did. I’m merely referring to what the police found through interrogations according to the BBC

Actually what you posted about the vetting was not clear at all and could have been read as referring to what the police did

Elucidate please. If what I report confuses you then I suggest you read it word for word on the BBC to satisfy yourself.

Good for the judge. I hoped Varley would be handed a whole life tariff. His partner gets 25 years. I hope neither of them have the nerve to appeal their sentences. Let's hope someone as determined as the judge makes some much needed and robust improvements to the adoption process in this country.

Silvershadow

I didn’t say it did. I’m merely referring to what the police found through interrogations according to the BBC

Actually what you posted about the vetting was not clear at all and could have been read as referring to what the police did

I didn’t say it did. I’m merely referring to what the police found through interrogations according to the BBC

Silvershadow, the vetting process for would be adopters does not include access to your phone.
Phone access is reserved for the police as part of an investigation.

I hope they both have a horrible time in prison. Even hardened criminals hate child abusers and murders.

saintpiran

Hope the prison guards turn a blind eye when fellow prisoner dish out the punishment these vile men deserve.

So do I! He absolutely deserves what’s coming to him as does his “husband”.

As for Preston’s biological father turning up. Reports say he is a criminal and a drug addict and has never even met Preston.

Poor little boy never stood a chance from the moment he took his first breath. RIP.

Silvershadow

A whole life order, thank heavens. He will be living in fear for the rest of his life hopefully. 25 years for the other one who could have spoken up and saved poor Preston. Evil.

He was convicted of sexual assault too - so it wasn't just a case of him turning a blind eye to Varley's abuse. He was complicit in the actual abuse too.