Where’s Nigel?

He enjoys the power he has over people doesn’t he. I just don’t understand how people can be taken in by him but must admit to being worried about going to one of his rallies as I’m scared that he would draw me in. It reminds me of going to a Salvation Army talk when I was in my teens and coming close to signing up with them; afterwards I felt I’d been hypnotised in some way.

nanna8

I don’t feel welcome here by many these days and I think it might be coming to an end. Obviously my comments are annoying because ai don’t live there. Sorry for that and I hadn’t intended to offend anyone. You can feel free to criticise the miserable lot over here if you like, I really would be quite interested.

Don’t leave

I wasn’t advocating for Farage or Tice.

I was supporting your right to comment 👍🏻

No don’t leave nanna8 …. It’s just there’s so much bile being thrown around that the Uk is sinking fast enough as it is.

Definitely don't leave nanna8. Your viewpoint is valid and I love hearing from Australia. Your a true Brit anyway! Just give it to them and hang the consequences.🤗

Fresh trouble for Farage?

The Times is running a story in which it claims that Farage has been funded by wealthy criminal George Cottrell who provided accommodation, security and staff to him which he hasn’t declared.

The story is, of course, behind a paywall. My link only takes you to the ‘headline’. Does anyone have a subscription?

www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/revealed-nigel-farage-secretly-funded-by-convicted-criminal-j0brtrlnk

Thanks for your support, it is appreciated. I am probably a bit over sensitive just now with illnesses etc and the usual worries you get when you are older.

Paywall removed, MaizieD.

archive.is/20260704211257/https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/revealed-nigel-farage-secretly-funded-by-convicted-criminal-j0brtrlnk

It answers the question why Farage gets tetchy when asked to provide evidence that any of the £5 billion bung from Harborne in 2024 "for his security" has been spent on security.

It seem that Posh George, who calls Farage “Daddy”, has been paying for it - and a lot more.

Where’s Nigel more recently? Was he in his constituency where MPs are supposed to be on Friday when Parliament is not sitting? Nope. He’s was in the USA again. He was in Washington with GB News, this time for his lobbyist mates Gerry Gunster and Andy Wigmore speaking at Gunster’s event Redcoats and Rebels.

C/f Nigel Farage’s campaign against the World Health Organization (WHO) is moving to the US with a new board of lobbyists [Gunster and Wigmore], raising questions over why the Reform UK leader is involved in an American pressure group.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/27/nigel-farage-action-on-world-health-campaign-who-us-board

Anything but do his job as an MP. He was personally invited by Leeds East MP Richard Burgon to attend last Wednesday morning’s Westminster Hall Commons debate, held from 9:30am to 11:00am, to advocate for why MPs should have second, third fourth … jobs. He failed to appear despite being in Westminster - as he was present at PMQs soon after.

Goodness, I’ve just read that article from the Times, if it is as well researched as it sounds, that’s going to do for him I think. What a murky world.

Thank you Graphite. I have read the article. Why is Farage in a close relationship with a convicted felon.
Even if he tries to claim he was not an MP at the time consorting with a criminal and taking his money shows how dishonourable he is.

what worries me is that the media seem to have a concerted campaign to discredit him - as they seem to do for every politician in the end, not to mention the Royal family. Once they get their claws in you're history.
Nothing to do with who you like or support individually, but it skews democracy.
For example I heard recently (and again how accurate was this!) in a discussion on the radio that the day after Brexit had been announced, a journalist remonstrated with a colleague from a pro-Brexit newspaper, who said words to the effect of "oh we didn't want Brexit, we just knew all our articles got readers".

Thanks for the article, Graphite.

I have read it and all I can say at the moment is “Good Lord!”.

This is the murky world of ‘wealth’ which people so naively defend as being necessary to the national and global economies…

Will it do for Farage? I sincerely hope so.

hoomee29

what worries me is that the media seem to have a concerted campaign to discredit him - as they seem to do for every politician in the end, not to mention the Royal family. Once they get their claws in you're history.
Nothing to do with who you like or support individually, but it skews democracy.
For example I heard recently (and again how accurate was this!) in a discussion on the radio that the day after Brexit had been announced, a journalist remonstrated with a colleague from a pro-Brexit newspaper, who said words to the effect of "oh we didn't want Brexit, we just knew all our articles got readers".

I don’t think it skews democracy to reveal dishonesty in reporting, when MPs have broken parliamentary rules or been involved in criminal activities. What is wrong is hounding people for political gain, when they haven’t broken any rules, eg Starmer’s mother’s donkey field - that is just wrong.

MaizieD murky world of wealth not every wealthy person is dodgy or a crook the majority are hard working decent people…

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD murky world of wealth not every wealthy person is dodgy or a crook the majority are hard working decent people…

There are two types of wealth. That gained by honest hard working people and wealth gained from criminal activity. That wealth is murky.

AGAA4 which is what I said 🤦‍♀️

Thanks for the link Graphite 👍 I wonder why he calls Farage "Daddy"- not an attractive or flattering image.

The amount of money circulating to Reform UK and weeding its way to Frage for personal. benefit is eye watering. The fact that Cottrell as paid for Farage's personal security blows his initial excuse that was the reason for the £5million gift from Harborne completely out of the water.

Apart from the fact Cottrell is a convicted felon- seeking a pardon from Trump, what also struck me were his "establishment' links- father went to Gordonstoun, a contemporary of Prince Andrew, mother an aristocrat who briefly dated Prince Charles etc. Farage has so many £ and social beneficial links to the 'establishment' . Yet another sign of his conceit is how Farage publicly declares he despises the 'establishment' but he would be nothing without it.

GrannyGravy13

AGAA4 which is what I said 🤦‍♀️

Not really.

AGAA4

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD murky world of wealth not every wealthy person is dodgy or a crook the majority are hard working decent people…

There are two types of wealth. That gained by honest hard working people and wealth gained from criminal activity. That wealth is murky.

I think you're simplifying that too much. What category would Epsteins world fit? Elon Musk's? All those wealthy people who 'donate' to politicians in the expectation of influencing policies? Private equity companies which buy up companies to asset strip them and load them with debt? Gamblers on the stock exchange, commodity markets, currency markets etc. whose sole objective is to make a profit? the wealthy who hide their wealth in offshore tax havens and use practically impenetrable networks of companies to avoid taxation? How about Palantir, beneficiary of £millions profit made from UK government contracts (some issued outside the proper procurement processes) which don't pay a penny in UK taxation?

That's just a few..

It's a very murky world indeed...

hoomee29

what worries me is that the media seem to have a concerted campaign to discredit him - as they seem to do for every politician in the end, not to mention the Royal family. Once they get their claws in you're history.
Nothing to do with who you like or support individually, but it skews democracy.
For example I heard recently (and again how accurate was this!) in a discussion on the radio that the day after Brexit had been announced, a journalist remonstrated with a colleague from a pro-Brexit newspaper, who said words to the effect of "oh we didn't want Brexit, we just knew all our articles got readers".

Farage's behaviour and greed discredits him not the media articles. The newspaper articles are not skewing democracy when they unearth such facts about Farage. It is more the case that Farage's corruption skewers democracy.

Newspaper articles publishing facts to unearth corruption are. in the public interest and have the benefit of promoting and sustaining transparency and democracy

Farage chooses to be in the lime light, he writes media articles himself, seeking to discredit others for his own benefit. He is a broadcaster similarly.

If he can't take the heat....

MaizieD

AGAA4

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD murky world of wealth not every wealthy person is dodgy or a crook the majority are hard working decent people…

There are two types of wealth. That gained by honest hard working people and wealth gained from criminal activity. That wealth is murky.

I think you're simplifying that too much. What category would Epsteins world fit? Elon Musk's? All those wealthy people who 'donate' to politicians in the expectation of influencing policies? Private equity companies which buy up companies to asset strip them and load them with debt? Gamblers on the stock exchange, commodity markets, currency markets etc. whose sole objective is to make a profit? the wealthy who hide their wealth in offshore tax havens and use practically impenetrable networks of companies to avoid taxation? How about Palantir, beneficiary of £millions profit made from UK government contracts (some issued outside the proper procurement processes) which don't pay a penny in UK taxation?

That's just a few..

It's a very murky world indeed...

There are murky dealings and actions in all walks of life.

Not everyone who plays the stock market, is murky making a profit isn’t murky Being rich isn’t a crime or murky

Having an offshore bank account is perfectly legal, as is a Swiss bank account.

Of course there are crooks, Epstein was convicted.

Elon Musk has done a lot of good with his money, and backed a lot of inventions which we all benefit from. Has he used his wealth to influence politics, yes. Has he done anything illegal, I do not know.

Never been a fan of Palantir, wish they were nowhere near the NHS.

It is just untrue, to say a blanket wealth is murky which is what you are implying.

I’ve just seen that the Liberal Democrats have reported this latest revelation to the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner as well. It’s interesting that suddenly the media have stopped being complicit with Farage’s financial activities being kept secret from the public, I can’t believe that at least some of this information wasn’t known about months or years ago. What has shifted I wonder, probably some dynamic that we don’t yet know either.

Casdon

I’ve just seen that the Liberal Democrats have reported this latest revelation to the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner as well. It’s interesting that suddenly the media have stopped being complicit with Farage’s financial activities being kept secret from the public, I can’t believe that at least some of this information wasn’t known about months or years ago. What has shifted I wonder, probably some dynamic that we don’t yet know either.

I think the established parties are worried about losing MP’s to Reform.

Also Nigel Farage’s business activities add to the growing all politicians are the same mantra which is becoming more prevalent.

Times journalist Gabriel Pogrund:

Where are we this morning?

George Cottrell’s lawyers acknowledged he paid for Nigel Farage’s staff and security. He did so via electronic transfer from bank accounts in his name.

On the townhouse, they said their client “does, and did” let Farage stay there.

Farage has sought to dismiss both.

On failing to declare funding for operation, he said he didn’t need to: he wasn’t a politician at the time.

On failing to declare use of house, he said he didn’t need to: Cottrell is a friend, so it is exempt.

Sources close to him are also downplaying this dimension generally, saying stays extremely infrequent.

The parliamentary rules say any benefit exceeding £300 in value that is not “purely personal” — i.e. romantic partner or family — and is in any way related to an MP’s “political activities” must be declared. This includes the 12 months before a new MP’s election.

The rules are very clear about this but, once again, Farage thinks those rules don't apply to him.

publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmcode/1882/188204.htm

I’m sure you’re right regarding the traditional parties GrannyGravy13, it’s in their interests to report any alleged financial or other misdoings.
Why the press have shifted their stance though is interesting. I do think it’s more than just public opinion that suddenly sees all these things coming to light in a flurry of revelations. It suddenly feels as though they have marked his card.