Govt announces Ukrainian style scheme to bring thousands more migrants to UK

We have schools and hospitals falling down, filthy water because our water companies can't cope

The whole fabric and infrastructure is crumbling due to years of mismanagement and greed by a few.

It is not the fault of refugees.

The UK does not take very refugee in from around the world. All EU counties process applications from asylum seekers/ refugees as it the refugee's legal entitlement and the UK's legal obligation under the 1951 Refugee Convention law.

It is not a question "wanting more people to come" it is more the case its a fact of life that for centuries refugees have been seeking safe sanctuary away from wars, persecution, flood, famine etc in their home countries. With climate change, ever increasing inequalities, global wars etc the situation is unlikely to change soon.

Why are we obliged to take in every refugee from around the world who wants to come here? Too many who might wish us harm, or who are criminals, are attempting to board the sinking ship which is the UK.

We have a criminal underworld now which is out of control, with drug dealers and people traffickers. We have schools and hospitals falling down, filthy water because our water companies can't cope, nowhere near enough houses, energy issues, the list goes on. Our infrastructure can't cope, and yet you want more people to put pressure on it?

Don't forget, this will never end. People will keep coming, in 10 years, 20 years, where will we be?

So I ask again, why are we obliged to take in every refugee from around the world who wants to come here?

I agree AGAA4. There have been posters on this thread who seemingly seek to be critical of posters that are unwilling to state that they would offer accommodation to a refugee. under this proposed. scheme.

As Oreo points out we are a country of nearly 70 million- of that there will be a proportion that have previously and will in the future, offer accommodation to a refugee.

I don't know anyone who has taken in refugees but I am aware that many people do.
Not everyone has the resources to offer accomodation and most people are aware of that and don't criticise those who can't.

It’s still not surprising that we don’t all know of people who have done so.

So?

It's also not just Ukrainians refugees that have been taken in by UK citizens- the person I know has successively taken in refugees to their home since around 2012/2013.

mumofmadboys
Considering that the population of the UK is around 69.5 million it’s no surprise surely that we don’t all know any of the
74,000 who offered a home to Ukrainian families.

Each one in turn- then as they move on offers accommodation for the next one.....

I also know of someone who has taken in several refugees for some years now....

There is no obligation to help anyone. It depends on our individual resources. I'm surprised you don't know anyone Oreo who has taken in Ukrainian folk or heard of anyone in your town.

mumofmadboys

Primrose nearly 74,000 people offered to house Ukranian guests. Do you not know at least one of those folk?

Well I don’t know anyone who has taken in migrants from any country including Ukraine, why would we?

mumofmadboys

Primrose nearly 74,000 people offered to house Ukranian guests. Do you not know at least one of those folk?

I think it was a lot more than that mumofmadboys.

I have no problem with the Ukrainian scheme because it was legal and they were in genuine need and were fleeing a war. They were also women and children not young men with no ID.

I said at the start of this thread that I helped out a young Mum and her children and took them lots of household stuff as they came with nothing.

So me not having a, spare bedroom is an excuse rather than a reason? Are you implying I should get a larger flat because I'm not anti immigration? Or maybe I'm against immigration really and I just lie about it?
I've actually never read anything so utterly ridiculous on here, usually even the less than sensible comes from a place of ignorance and where does yours come from?

Primrose53

Oldnproud

Primrose53

I believe mainly from Eritrea and Sudan.

Be interesting to see how many migrant supporters on here offer to take them into their homes!

If it’s the same as Ukrainian scheme you will get paid about £380 a month.

Getting ready for the usual excuses - haven’t got a spare room, can’t afford it, I live in a flat, I am too old, my second cousin twice removed lives with me etc etc. 🤣

Are you genuinely unaware of how small and basic many people's homes are, even in this day and age? Please do not imply that most people's 'excuses' as you call them, are not genuine. Some will be, no doubt, but that does not excuse this insulting blanket accusation.

Come on ….. I’ve watched loads of interviews on TV and never yet seen a person saying they will take any migrants in. all we hear are excuses.

As previously stated there has been a scheme running quietly in the background for many years
.https://refugeesathome.org/

Why should posters justify their choices and lifestyles to you please?

How do I know that the Labour government ACCELERATED the rate of asylum vetting?
Simple.
I read more than just the right wing versions of MSM.

Primrose nearly 74,000 people offered to house Ukranian guests. Do you not know at least one of those folk?

Oldnproud

Primrose53

I believe mainly from Eritrea and Sudan.

Be interesting to see how many migrant supporters on here offer to take them into their homes!

If it’s the same as Ukrainian scheme you will get paid about £380 a month.

Getting ready for the usual excuses - haven’t got a spare room, can’t afford it, I live in a flat, I am too old, my second cousin twice removed lives with me etc etc. 🤣

Are you genuinely unaware of how small and basic many people's homes are, even in this day and age? Please do not imply that most people's 'excuses' as you call them, are not genuine. Some will be, no doubt, but that does not excuse this insulting blanket accusation.

Come on ….. I’ve watched loads of interviews on TV and never yet seen a person saying they will take any migrants in. all we hear are excuses.

Most people in many countries of the world couldn't think of casually spending £3 on a nice latte or cuppa in a cafe as many except here. Thats a family meal for a whole day or even 2 days. If they eat at all.

We've got used to a level of lifestyle here in our baby booming years.

It is not a matter of helping either our own poor or refugees. They can be done at the same time. Life is always about compromise. We are lucky to have been born in a fairly rich country with the NHS and free from war. A lot of people are not so fortunate.

It’s also a misnomer to suggest the proposed scheme is for people from specific countries, because it isn’t.

Primrose53

I believe mainly from Eritrea and Sudan.

Be interesting to see how many migrant supporters on here offer to take them into their homes!

If it’s the same as Ukrainian scheme you will get paid about £380 a month.

Getting ready for the usual excuses - haven’t got a spare room, can’t afford it, I live in a flat, I am too old, my second cousin twice removed lives with me etc etc. 🤣

Are you genuinely unaware of how small and basic many people's homes are, even in this day and age? Please do not imply that most people's 'excuses' as you call them, are not genuine. Some will be, no doubt, but that does not excuse this insulting blanket accusation.

MT62

Because erm they fought for our country greyfur!

erm, I think they are well catered for. It's not a competition.

Maremia

Our Government has ACCELERATED the vetting process, in the short time it has been in power.
Just because it's not been headlining in The Mail or the Telegraph or GB News does not mean it has not been happening.
That is 'doing something'.

How do you know they have ACCELERATED IT?