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Sympathy for Harry anyone?

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TG3465 Mon 06-Jul-26 15:57:53

Is there anyone left who has any sympathy for H&M after the recent pantomime? I’ve been in the ‘against’ camp since the birth of Archie when they deliberately misled the press and public with delayed announcements and made it clear they were doing things their way. Since then….well. I have a close friend who still thinks the sun shines out of Harry’s backside, he’s had a terrible upbringing and life, he should get an apology….I’m avoiding contact with her this week as I know she’ll have another excuse about him.

Jaberwok Mon 06-Jul-26 17:40:03

The only person in the RF who had a difficult, rather lonely upbringing was the then Prince Charles! Prince Philip in particular was very tough on this shy sensitive little boy who shook hands, and bowed to his mother. Gordonstone, although splendid for Andrew was the last school where Charles should have been sent, he was deeply unhappy and hated it. But for the support and love of his grandmother that boy would have had a desperately miserable time. Curiously the QM always appeared to be in Scotland during term.time?! Prince Harry did NOT have a difficult upbringing, any more than William did, parents divorce? along with many others, does not excuse bad behaviour. Sandhurst with two unaccademic A levels, only a Prince can do that, a mother who spoilt and encouraged bad behaviour, a father who did his best. Best of everything, money no object, grandparents who loved him, and whom he betrayed and now this drama! No sympathy at all for Harry. Plenty for the King who would love to see his grandchildren. What's wrong with arranging a family week at Balmoral? Plenty of security there, the estate is enormous. Princess Margaret had lots of faults, but she was never ever disloyal either to the crown or particularly her sister the Queen. No interviews, no books, no comment.

Sago Mon 06-Jul-26 17:37:08

He married a narcissist probably because he was vulnerable.

She had done what every narcissist does, separate home from his support network.

I just hope that the family are there for home if he needs them.

I don’t read the articles I just see the headlines, it’s enough.

Magenta8 Mon 06-Jul-26 17:33:11

Bluebelle Looking slightly further than Margaret and stating the obvious, Andrew was the spare.

Charles is somewhat less saintly than William has been so far. Harry has not been anywhere near as awful as Andrew and probably never will be.

Fallingstar Mon 06-Jul-26 17:29:08

Newatthis

Why can't everyone just leave them alone. For goodness sake - he is a war hero, both he and his wife do an awful lot for charity especially military veterans who have been traumatized and maimed. Let's face it, as the 'spare' he really didn't have much of a role in the Royal family so if he chosen to lead his life the way he sees fit then let him. It would seem that no matter what he and his family do, then it's wrong. Whereas C & W can do the same thing and it's 'wondefrful'.

Quite happy to leave them alone but since leaving the UK Harry and Meghan have courted the media. I mean Harry wrote a book that was particularly scathing and hurtful to his immediate family. If they want to be left alone they should keep to themselves and then am sure everyone would lose interest.

Calendargirl Mon 06-Jul-26 17:27:28

No, he’s made his bed, and is now finding it pretty uncomfortable.

Nothing has worked out how they planned it to.

I imagine Meghan peck, peck, pecking away at him, bringing up this, that or the other.

“This isn’t what I signed up for, H, when I married you”.

I bet Harry thinks the same, truth be told.

Newatthis Mon 06-Jul-26 17:24:02

Why can't everyone just leave them alone. For goodness sake - he is a war hero, both he and his wife do an awful lot for charity especially military veterans who have been traumatized and maimed. Let's face it, as the 'spare' he really didn't have much of a role in the Royal family so if he chosen to lead his life the way he sees fit then let him. It would seem that no matter what he and his family do, then it's wrong. Whereas C & W can do the same thing and it's 'wondefrful'.

LemonJam Mon 06-Jul-26 17:23:39

Estrangement is always sad. I am aware of no evidence Harry chose to estrange himself- relationship difficulties and hurt on both sides no doubt.

Oldnproud Mon 06-Jul-26 17:23:06

I have no strong feelings either way, but I do wish that they could all keep the ins and outs of their family fall-out to themselves, and not (seemingly) deliberately air their grievances via the media - assuming that is what is happening, and that the media are not making all these headlines up.

Fallingstar Mon 06-Jul-26 17:22:53

I feel sorry for H & Ms children who had no choice in the present estrangement and so don’t get to see their father’s family. Is all very well for adult children to fall out with their families, but they shouldn’t inflict this upon their children.

Witzend Mon 06-Jul-26 17:20:57

GrannyGravy13

I have sympathy for any family struggling with estrangement.

He chose to estrange himself. After opting out of any royal role, not to mention slagging off his family, I don’t know why he thinks he’s entitled to official police protection.
If Charles stripped him of his princely status, I’d be the last one to object.

Mollygo Mon 06-Jul-26 17:09:12

winterwhite

I liked the summary in the paper this morning: They come. They don’t. Whatever. We’re busy.

👏👏👏

winterwhite Mon 06-Jul-26 17:07:51

I liked the summary in the paper this morning: They come. They don’t. Whatever. We’re busy.

Mollygo Mon 06-Jul-26 16:56:09

Joanofarc99

I feel very uncomfortable with the amount of nastiness by him against our Royal Family. In particular his actions in the last week's of his grandfather ,Prince Philips life and last years of the late Queen.

Yes indeed. That makes it difficult to understand why he expects special treatment now.

Ilovecheese

Pretending to know the thoughts and actions of a person contributors have never met, I find distasteful.

I agree, but even without the media spin, Harry, via interviews and publications made it quite clear what he thinks.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 06-Jul-26 16:51:25

I have sympathy for any family struggling with estrangement.

NanKate Mon 06-Jul-26 16:48:55

I thought they wanted a peaceful life in the US, instead they publicise themselves at every opportunity.

I wonder if one day she will move on without Harry, I hope not for his sake.

Joanofarc99 Mon 06-Jul-26 16:36:30

Ilovecheese

Not really sympathy but I do feel very uncomfortable with the amount of nastiness, indeed, vitriol, towards him and his wife.
Pretending to know the thoughts and actions of a person contributors have never met, I find distasteful.

I feel very uncomfortable with the amount of nastiness by him against our Royal Family. In particular his actions in the last week's of his grandfather ,Prince Philips life and last years of the late Queen.

BlueBelle Mon 06-Jul-26 16:34:17

Yes I do feel quite sorry for him I think he’s grown up in an unenviable position, It’s well documented that the ‘Spare’ always has a difficult time and often doesn’t perform as expected (look no further than Margaret)
I think there has been a lot of nastiness in the right wing press picking up on every single thing down to practically the way he breathes This has got more marked with marrying Meghan and having the children. You only have to look at remarks on here
I think Charles and the rather saintly William have joined forces so he feels even less welcome and more pushed out
I don t think I d even bother coming over if it was me

Ilovecheese Mon 06-Jul-26 16:26:57

Not really sympathy but I do feel very uncomfortable with the amount of nastiness, indeed, vitriol, towards him and his wife.
Pretending to know the thoughts and actions of a person contributors have never met, I find distasteful.

LemonJam Mon 06-Jul-26 16:18:01

I form an opinion on a case by case basis.

As I understand (if all that I've read in the press is true and accurate) that Harry was coming to England anyway as part of his Invictus work. His choice- his work- for him to sort out security for himself and his wife and children if they accompany him.

I understand he wanted to take the opportunity to bring his wife and children to visit his family/father but decided not to avail himself of royal family accommodation.

He made a request for security but denied but hasn't here already been a court case that ruled Harry is no longer eligible for UK funded state protection as he is not a working royal and no longer lives in UK- his choice.

That Harry changed his mind over past few days and would now like to stay in royal accommodation is his change of mind. Evidently the palace would need to give staff notice etc and late notice not good and they say cannot be done- their reasonable response. Plus there's now a realisation his stay would clash with another court case of Harry's that publishes its outcome during this trip. Can easily understand that puts RF in a tricky situation.

It is what it is- ball isin Harry's court- come or don't come- alone or with family- fund own security- if he feels its required - and arrange own accommodation. Its for Harry to make his own decisions based on his own priorities and whether he still wishes to visit his father, with or without his children.

sundowngirl Mon 06-Jul-26 16:11:20

Nope

Padstow13 Mon 06-Jul-26 16:08:41

I think Harry is determined to sulk forever and a day because William is going to get the top job - unless something unfortunate happens. And there's no denying Princess Katharines overwhelming popularity.

Tough Harry. At least you and Meg will never be reduced to Universal Credit.

ReturningFromExile Mon 06-Jul-26 16:05:56

It's impossible to know exactly what happened with Harry's visit. Accounts vary....

Dylis Mon 06-Jul-26 16:04:02

None whatsoever!

Beechnut Mon 06-Jul-26 16:03:52

terrible upbringing and life strewth

MawsRosie Mon 06-Jul-26 15:59:13

Sigh - not really!