Sympathy for Harry anyone?

Molly ... it seemed important to me not to join the media-led and selectively media-informed vendetta against this couple, not because they are any part of my life, but because I am deeply concerned about fairness and about the sort of trial-by-social media that features so much now. It feels wrong in principle.

But Luckygirl13 you’ve just spent more than a moment on this person who is not your relative or neighbour and his actions do not impinge on you in any way.
I haven’t counted exactly how many posters have expressed the hatred that you say people are harbouring.
But whether it’s good for them or not it’s not our business.
We can’t know or prove whether Harry has found happiness with his wife and children or whether he has a deep well of sadness.
We can only, as you do, post our own opinions

I do have sympathy for Harry as I have outlined on the other live thread about him. In summary:

What I see is a man who has had an unhappy childhood with a deep well of sadness inside him..
I am glad he has found happiness with his wife and children.
He is always going to be saddled with his heritage and the scars from his childhood, but he has done good things in spite of this: served with distinction in the armed forces and started the Invictus Games.
Even if people feel he has done some things wrong and made mistakes as all of us do, I cannot see where the hatred comes from or why anyone would waste their time on it. He is not our relative or neighbour and his actions do not impinge on us in any way. He is not being paid from our taxes. Why expend a moment of life on this?
I honestly think it is not good for people to harbour this hatred. It is a puzzle to me.

In answer to the OP's question, No, I don't feel sorry for Harry. I have just read an article by Tony Parsons saying how cruel Harry was in inveigling Dame Doreen Lawrence into his fight against the Daily Mail, a newspaper who had supported her fight for justice for her son Stephen. He told her he had uncovered evidence that she had been hacked by the newspaper, something that was proved in court to be a bare-faced lie. Doreen Lawrence was used by Harry, plain and simple. Without her it looked like celebrities versus the DM but with her on board it added some gravitas to his case. They now have to find £50m to pay their legal bill. The very least Harry can do is to pay Dame Doreen Lawrence's share. It's the least he can do after lying to this lady who has had such turmoil in her life. Shame on him.

Yes Violetbynight, I too am very glad to see that the grandchildren have met their grandfather. I hope that the estrangement will end for them all now.

Happy to see that the King has met his grandchildren, Megan and Harry without the usual publicity. A step in the right direction maybe.

Nobody here is qualified to diagnose someone with narcissism.
Particularly by seeing soneone through a lens.

Thats ridiculous.

I felt disgusted at seeing those boys walking behind Diana’s hearse. How late Queen sanctioned that as a grandmother I cannot imagine. Harry looked so small. William looking at his feet. What a close bond those boys had. I blame Megan who H was and still is besotted with. She says jump he says how high.She is a narcissist, everything is about her. Camilla too has nothing to be proud of, I can’t call her Queen but first to agree that she and Charles are made for each other, pity D was used like a pawn in a game by the pair, that had to affect those boys.
Whilst H is with M I cannot see way forward. They want half in half out as they said at beginning. Look at Harry's face and inside he is broken.

Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't know more.
One thing is for sure - he certainly knows more about his own family dynamics than anyone on here.

I doubt he knows anything about his mother's death that isn't already in the public domain. If she had been wearing a seat belt she would have survived.

Not yet.
Who's to say he won't?
Certainly nobody here.

Absolutely M0nica. All of the 'will they, wont they' in the media attracts attention when they could of they wanted too, have kept Meghan and the children coming a secret.

They love the publicity and 'there's no such thing as bad publicity' seems to be their mantra.

Keep schtum about what Boing? Harry hasn't 'revealed' anything about the tragic death of Diana that wasn't already in the public domain.

I think it's embarrassing all round - none of us know what the real truth is about any of them and after the Andrew revelations I have little time or interest in them. The press are totally one-sided and only favour the King and William/his family - who is to say they behave any better behind closed doors. I know a lot of people are hoping that when William becomes King there will be a positive shift for the monarchy because he's his mother's son, but so is Harry.

I have a belief that both sons know what really happened to Diana, their mum, but William being heir to the throne has to follow protocol and keep schtum, Harry not so much.

I’ve been in the ‘against’ camp since the birth of Archie when they deliberately misled the press and public with delayed announcements and made it clear they were doing things their way.

Why wouldn't they? Why would this make anyone "against" them? It makes no sense.

They had the right to decide when and how to introduce their new baby to others, just as we did when ours were born.

The British public did not own them, could not (and should not) dictate the decisions they make about their own children.

Lathyrus3

Sadgrandma

eazybee

Apparently Meghan and the children are coming to Britain but will not appear in public.
Security: not a clue.

Personally I think she realises how unpopular she is over here and is scared that she will get booed if she appears in public. However, the press is bound to find her if she does come and there will be photos no doubt - probably organised by her!

Wonder who released the information that she and the children are coming privately 🙄

He dsapponed they’d be if the press didn’t try to intrude😬

If the Duchess and children had come over and their visit was not admitted to until they were safe home again they would be even safer.

graciemabel

Can you imagine if he was 1st born and in line to the throne and she was Queen!!

In that case he’d have been tutored differently in early life , would have a definitive role to play and would likely do it well and make us proud 🤷‍♀️

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Moii

Camilla, ha not my Queen! Couldn't pay me to curtsey.
You're unlikely to be asked, but that was an example of MH’s poor manners. Do you support her lack of good manners?

Mollygo

I don’t suppose Camilla was bothered about a curtsy from Meghan. If you don’t expect good manners from someone, their lack of them isn’t worth bothering about.

Camilla, ha not my Queen! Couldn't pay me to curtsey.

🤣🤣🤣she’d probably have demanded to play her own role in any film about the RF!

Can you imagine if he was 1st born and in line to the throne and she was Queen!!

I don’t suppose Camilla was bothered about a curtsy from Meghan. If you don’t expect good manners from someone, their lack of them isn’t worth bothering about.

ixion

I wonder how Camilla played this?🤔

Hope Meghan remembers how to courtsey.

I expect she was up in the loft, digging out the old Lego.

I wonder how Camilla played this?🤔

Evidently, the king has met with Lilybet and Archie.