Sympathy for Harry anyone?

No sympathy whatsoever. He is a professional whinger and whiner and nearly as narcissistic as his wife.

nexus63

he did not feel he could bring her and the kids without security, why did the king not cover the cost, i have no sympathy for him and the nasty woman he married but i think it would have been nice for the children to see there grandad and cousins, how many on gransnet would give anything to see the grandchildren.....i know i would.

It wasn’t the cost it was the fact that Harry wanted armed security something even the King cannot purchase in the UK.

Armed security is at the discretion of those in charge and is based on intelligence.

he did not feel he could bring her and the kids without security, why did the king not cover the cost, i have no sympathy for him and the nasty woman he married but i think it would have been nice for the children to see there grandad and cousins, how many on gransnet would give anything to see the grandchildren.....i know i would.

Newatthis

Why can't everyone just leave them alone. For goodness sake - he is a war hero, both he and his wife do an awful lot for charity especially military veterans who have been traumatized and maimed. Let's face it, as the 'spare' he really didn't have much of a role in the Royal family so if he chosen to lead his life the way he sees fit then let him. It would seem that no matter what he and his family do, then it's wrong. Whereas C & W can do the same thing and it's 'wondefrful'.

Well said!

Jaberwok

The only person in the RF who had a difficult, rather lonely upbringing was the then Prince Charles! Prince Philip in particular was very tough on this shy sensitive little boy who shook hands, and bowed to his mother. Gordonstone, although splendid for Andrew was the last school where Charles should have been sent, he was deeply unhappy and hated it. But for the support and love of his grandmother that boy would have had a desperately miserable time. Curiously the QM always appeared to be in Scotland during term.time?! Prince Harry did NOT have a difficult upbringing, any more than William did, parents divorce? along with many others, does not excuse bad behaviour. Sandhurst with two unaccademic A levels, only a Prince can do that, a mother who spoilt and encouraged bad behaviour, a father who did his best. Best of everything, money no object, grandparents who loved him, and whom he betrayed and now this drama! No sympathy at all for Harry. Plenty for the King who would love to see his grandchildren. What's wrong with arranging a family week at Balmoral? Plenty of security there, the estate is enormous. Princess Margaret had lots of faults, but she was never ever disloyal either to the crown or particularly her sister the Queen. No interviews, no books, no comment.

Yes. This. My sympathetic friend also spouts - lost his Mother young…all his Dad's fault because of Camilla……his Dad was never around when Harry needed him… All of which is regretful but I’m afraid that in his early forties his air of total petulance and grievance has worn thin with me now.

Definitely Not!

Well said Jaberwok

The only person in the RF who had a difficult, rather lonely upbringing was the then Prince Charles! Prince Philip in particular was very tough on this shy sensitive little boy who shook hands, and bowed to his mother. Gordonstone, although splendid for Andrew was the last school where Charles should have been sent, he was deeply unhappy and hated it. But for the support and love of his grandmother that boy would have had a desperately miserable time. Curiously the QM always appeared to be in Scotland during term.time?! Prince Harry did NOT have a difficult upbringing, any more than William did, parents divorce? along with many others, does not excuse bad behaviour. Sandhurst with two unaccademic A levels, only a Prince can do that, a mother who spoilt and encouraged bad behaviour, a father who did his best. Best of everything, money no object, grandparents who loved him, and whom he betrayed and now this drama! No sympathy at all for Harry. Plenty for the King who would love to see his grandchildren. What's wrong with arranging a family week at Balmoral? Plenty of security there, the estate is enormous. Princess Margaret had lots of faults, but she was never ever disloyal either to the crown or particularly her sister the Queen. No interviews, no books, no comment.

He married a narcissist probably because he was vulnerable.

She had done what every narcissist does, separate home from his support network.

I just hope that the family are there for home if he needs them.

I don’t read the articles I just see the headlines, it’s enough.

Bluebelle Looking slightly further than Margaret and stating the obvious, Andrew was the spare.

Charles is somewhat less saintly than William has been so far. Harry has not been anywhere near as awful as Andrew and probably never will be.

Newatthis

Why can't everyone just leave them alone. For goodness sake - he is a war hero, both he and his wife do an awful lot for charity especially military veterans who have been traumatized and maimed. Let's face it, as the 'spare' he really didn't have much of a role in the Royal family so if he chosen to lead his life the way he sees fit then let him. It would seem that no matter what he and his family do, then it's wrong. Whereas C & W can do the same thing and it's 'wondefrful'.

Quite happy to leave them alone but since leaving the UK Harry and Meghan have courted the media. I mean Harry wrote a book that was particularly scathing and hurtful to his immediate family. If they want to be left alone they should keep to themselves and then am sure everyone would lose interest.

No, he’s made his bed, and is now finding it pretty uncomfortable.

Nothing has worked out how they planned it to.

I imagine Meghan peck, peck, pecking away at him, bringing up this, that or the other.

“This isn’t what I signed up for, H, when I married you”.

I bet Harry thinks the same, truth be told.

Why can't everyone just leave them alone. For goodness sake - he is a war hero, both he and his wife do an awful lot for charity especially military veterans who have been traumatized and maimed. Let's face it, as the 'spare' he really didn't have much of a role in the Royal family so if he chosen to lead his life the way he sees fit then let him. It would seem that no matter what he and his family do, then it's wrong. Whereas C & W can do the same thing and it's 'wondefrful'.

Estrangement is always sad. I am aware of no evidence Harry chose to estrange himself- relationship difficulties and hurt on both sides no doubt.

I have no strong feelings either way, but I do wish that they could all keep the ins and outs of their family fall-out to themselves, and not (seemingly) deliberately air their grievances via the media - assuming that is what is happening, and that the media are not making all these headlines up.

I feel sorry for H & Ms children who had no choice in the present estrangement and so don’t get to see their father’s family. Is all very well for adult children to fall out with their families, but they shouldn’t inflict this upon their children.

GrannyGravy13

I have sympathy for any family struggling with estrangement.

He chose to estrange himself. After opting out of any royal role, not to mention slagging off his family, I don’t know why he thinks he’s entitled to official police protection.
If Charles stripped him of his princely status, I’d be the last one to object.

winterwhite

I liked the summary in the paper this morning: They come. They don’t. Whatever. We’re busy.

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I liked the summary in the paper this morning: They come. They don’t. Whatever. We’re busy.

Joanofarc99

I feel very uncomfortable with the amount of nastiness by him against our Royal Family. In particular his actions in the last week's of his grandfather ,Prince Philips life and last years of the late Queen.

Yes indeed. That makes it difficult to understand why he expects special treatment now.

Ilovecheese

Pretending to know the thoughts and actions of a person contributors have never met, I find distasteful.

I agree, but even without the media spin, Harry, via interviews and publications made it quite clear what he thinks.

I have sympathy for any family struggling with estrangement.

I thought they wanted a peaceful life in the US, instead they publicise themselves at every opportunity.

I wonder if one day she will move on without Harry, I hope not for his sake.

Ilovecheese

Not really sympathy but I do feel very uncomfortable with the amount of nastiness, indeed, vitriol, towards him and his wife.
Pretending to know the thoughts and actions of a person contributors have never met, I find distasteful.

I feel very uncomfortable with the amount of nastiness by him against our Royal Family. In particular his actions in the last week's of his grandfather ,Prince Philips life and last years of the late Queen.

Yes I do feel quite sorry for him I think he’s grown up in an unenviable position, It’s well documented that the ‘Spare’ always has a difficult time and often doesn’t perform as expected (look no further than Margaret)
I think there has been a lot of nastiness in the right wing press picking up on every single thing down to practically the way he breathes This has got more marked with marrying Meghan and having the children. You only have to look at remarks on here
I think Charles and the rather saintly William have joined forces so he feels even less welcome and more pushed out
I don t think I d even bother coming over if it was me

Not really sympathy but I do feel very uncomfortable with the amount of nastiness, indeed, vitriol, towards him and his wife.
Pretending to know the thoughts and actions of a person contributors have never met, I find distasteful.