Clacton by-election

Wyllow3

Remember that claiming PIP often actually is to enable people with disabilities to work, the 8% is not ‘unemployed’

Exactly my point earlier. But FGT and others like to be controversial!

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

Galaxy

I wish the the people not in Clacton would think for one second why people might look elsewhere for political answers.

I agree, I am really uncomfortable with what is basically maligning of the electorate of Tendring.

I'm sorry?

Who is maligning the electorate of Tendring? Do quote...

An who is subjecting them to a totally unnecessary by-election which, in my book, points to him cynically using them for his own ends?

We know that Jaywick is in his constituency, it is one of the poorest in England.

Graphite has posted regarding his constituency being in the top 20% of deprivation (health and education)

They have elected Conservatives and now Reform, their choice, their X on the ballot paper.

I am a uncomfortable with the veiled assertions that they do not know what they are voting for, along with posters on here assuming that they know what Tendring Electorate need and want…

I am not a Reform supporter by the way, but I wouldn’t dream of telling someone else how they should vote.

I think the good people of Clacton knew who they voted for and why.

Like most other English seaside towns and cities, Clacton has pockets of deprivation, it also has issues around seasonal work and unemployment, however, in common with other seaside towns and cities, it has areas of wealth, some huge houses, great restaurants, good cafes, golf clubs, sailing clubs, tennis clubs.

My overall feeling is that the people living in Farage’s constituency deserve an MP who serves them properly, not a gameplaying millionaire.

Farage’s predecessor, Giles Watling, ran surgeries, he even rented a tour bus and did mobile surgeries, he attended local events, he lived locally, he knew all the areas well, he oversaw the opening of a £2.2m GP super-surgery and turned up in the HoC to vote and lobby.

I think these people deserve better.

Btw, I don’t stalk these areas or people, I have a very long standing friend, who now lives in Frinton, but previously lived in Clacton where her husband was a senior GP partner in a local surgery. I stayed and visited her both in Clacton and Frinton, and know both these areas well.

Vote for Count Binface.

We know that Clacton is one of only two constituencies to ever elect an MP representing UKiP - the other was Rochester & Strood.

Douglas Carswell in Clacton defected to UkiP from the Tories but retained the seat in a by-election and subsequent GE. So were people voting for him or party? He subsequently left UkiP and served as an Independent until 2017 when May called a snap election.

His relationship with UKiP party leader Nigel Farage was full of "animosity" and "tension"; on several occasions he called for Farage to step down as party leader.(Wiki)

There’s a reason Farage bumped Tony Mack in 2024, because he thought it was the safer seat of the two and indeed Rochester and Strood went to Labour.

I believe in democracy. People can vote for whoever they chose. They can vote for a bin if they want to but what interests me is how people make those decisions.

I genuinely cannot see what Reform has to offer. It operates on a platform of division and seems to stand for everything that makes the lives of ordinary people worse. Giving them better renter's rights would make life easier. More UC to feed and cloth three children would. Enabling their older teenagers to earn a bit more would. But, no. Reform doesn't support measures like that. Put them in power and they would repeal the Renters' Rights Act, restore the two child UC cap and reduce what young people can earn. Why? So they can give a massive tax break to crypto gamblers like Harborne and Cottrell. How would helping their super rich donors get richer help the poor residents of Jaywick?

Now I’m reading that Reform activists, branch officers, and councillors in the North West have been instructed to abandon the Greater Manchester mayoral campaign for Sian Astley to assist Farage in the Clacton by-election.

As always, it’s all about him. And why is so much activism necessary to beat a bin?

So what are they going to campaign on? Which of his achievements for Clacton in the last two years can they point to and say, Look at what a great job he’s doing for you. Or will it be more nonsense about migration and net zero to a predominantly elderly white population suffering in record temperatures?

(Over 95% of the population is white and 30% are age 65 and over (compared to 18% in the rest of England)).

Cossy. Giles Watling has said he is willing to stand again so when this current charade is over and assuming Farage is eventually suspended and subject to a recall, Clacton may, once again, get an MP who gives a damn.

There is also something about the regions in the South East coastal counties of England voting right, more so than the rest of the UK. Jaywick is the most deprived electoral ward in the UK, but as a comparison, seven of the top ten deprivation areas in England are in Blackpool - which has two Labour MPs. It would be good to have more insight into why that is the case.

Farage is the Politicians politician. Tricky as a bag of monkeys. Also he must have learned a few expenses tips when he was a Euro MP.

The EU is not renowned for its transparency and honesty. Lets face it.
Not thrilled about the latest accusations against him. Perhaps he could lend some money to Prince Harry to solve his safety, body guarding problems
Farage is no worse that Politicians Expenses debacle back in day.

When Politicians were employing undeclared family members.

Remember the Daily Mail headline.

More snouts in the trough.

Also we have just been served up the despicable goings on with Mandelson financial wrongdoings.
Lack of vetting in the Epstein Affair.

I rest my case.

Where’s the noise?
Dale Vince donated £5 million to the Labour Party and in return received £123 million in subsidies for his energy companies.

Not a bad return on investment I’d say.

Yes I do realise his donation was to the LP and not Starmer.

Clacton residents are not daft.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Where’s the noise?
Dale Vince donated £5 million to the Labour Party and in return received £123 million in subsidies for his energy companies.

Not a bad return on investment I’d say.

Yes I do realise his donation was to the LP and not Starmer.

Clacton residents are not daft.

It wasn’t a personal donation to one person though, was it?

The media have got the bit between their teeth regarding Farage now, and he has played his hand badly over the last few weeks. As you say FGT2, of course the people of his constituency aren’t stupid, and depending whether more revelations come to light about his dealings over the next 5 weeks until the election, and again depending on the outcome of the parliamentary investigation, they won’t be loyal to him either.

Deflective whataboutery re Ecotricity.

As is often the case, you need to look beyond click bait.

dalevince.com/news/green-energy/truth-about-energy-subsidies-in-britain/

Graphite

Cossy. Giles Watling has said he is willing to stand again so when this current charade is over and assuming Farage is eventually suspended and subject to a recall, Clacton may, once again, get an MP who gives a damn.

That would be fab, but he is 74 now, so does deserve a break! He is a good man though by all accounts

So what are they going to campaign on?

Well, Graphite. Judging from the las t few days I think that Farage is going to campaign on how the establishment is scheming to get rid of him because he sticks up for the little people and tells it how it is. He is the only person who can save them from the evils the establishment has inflicted on them.

What is more, they are all cowards who daren't fight him for the seat because they know he will win it with an overwhelming majority and it will humiliate them.

That the Parliamentary investigation into whether or not he broke Parliamentary rules is a kangaroo court and the Select Committee for Standards which will decide on what to do with the Commissioner's report is made up of people who hate him so they will set out to punish him even though he has done nothing wrong and making money isn't a crime...

That's for starters, Perhaps others can add to it...

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GrannyGravy13

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

Galaxy

I wish the the people not in Clacton would think for one second why people might look elsewhere for political answers.

I agree, I am really uncomfortable with what is basically maligning of the electorate of Tendring.

I'm sorry?

Who is maligning the electorate of Tendring? Do quote...

An who is subjecting them to a totally unnecessary by-election which, in my book, points to him cynically using them for his own ends?

We know that Jaywick is in his constituency, it is one of the poorest in England.

Graphite has posted regarding his constituency being in the top 20% of deprivation (health and education)

They have elected Conservatives and now Reform, their choice, their X on the ballot paper.

I am a uncomfortable with the veiled assertions that they do not know what they are voting for, along with posters on here assuming that they know what Tendring Electorate need and want…

I am not a Reform supporter by the way, but I wouldn’t dream of telling someone else how they should vote.

You have sidestepped my point about the necessity of the by-election and their MP using them.

Most posters seem more concerned about the voters being taken for a ride by their ex MP than with maligning the poor souls.

he sticks up for the little people
Surely we're all little people, just ordinary citizens with no power? We're all the little people impacted by political forces.

Casdon

There is also something about the regions in the South East coastal counties of England voting right, more so than the rest of the UK. Jaywick is the most deprived electoral ward in the UK, but as a comparison, seven of the top ten deprivation areas in England are in Blackpool - which has two Labour MPs. It would be good to have more insight into why that is the case.

I think it’s historic, in our two constituencies in my part of Essex, Tories ruled the roost for decades and decades, very traditionally right wing.

Now we have two Labour MPs, both men of colour. Some of the harder line right wingers were apoplectic.

Both MPs getting in was a shock, even for those of us who voted for them, however both canvassed tirelessly, both knocked on every door in their own wards, both send out newsletters monthly (if you sign up of course), both run surgeries, attend local events and regularly vote in the HoC.

I think within much of Essex we have a large amount of pensioners, some very affluent areas, some real pockets of deprivation and everything in between.

We also still have state maintained Grammar Schools, 8 I believe, 4 girls, 4 boys and a big selection of independent schools. We are also very close commuting wise to the City of London and lots of worked in the square mile back in the day.

No idea why we were/are traditionally Tory.

MartavTaurus

^he sticks up for the little people^
Surely we're all little people, just ordinary citizens with no power? We're all the little people impacted by political forces.

Does he? In his speeches maybe, but what does he actually do for the “so called little people” (I assume you’re not referring to leprechauns, pixies, elves or dwarves?)

Cossy

MartavTaurus

he sticks up for the little people
Surely we're all little people, just ordinary citizens with no power? We're all the little people impacted by political forces.

Does he? In his speeches maybe, but what does he actually do for the “so called little people” (I assume you’re not referring to leprechauns, pixies, elves or dwarves?)

Don't ask me. The quote was MaizieD's.

MaizieD the government could have blocked this by-election, they chose not to.

In my opinion they are aiding and abetting this circus

MaizieD

^So what are they going to campaign on? ^

Well, Graphite. Judging from the las t few days I think that Farage is going to campaign on how the establishment is scheming to get rid of him because he sticks up for the little people and tells it how it is. He is the only person who can save them from the evils the establishment has inflicted on them.

What is more, they are all cowards who daren't fight him for the seat because they know he will win it with an overwhelming majority and it will humiliate them.

That the Parliamentary investigation into whether or not he broke Parliamentary rules is a kangaroo court and the Select Committee for Standards which will decide on what to do with the Commissioner's report is made up of people who hate him so they will set out to punish him even though he has done nothing wrong and making money isn't a crime...

That's for starters, Perhaps others can add to it...

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In my opinion, I think you’re bang on!

Yes, his campaign will be based on his recent (nauseating) speech, in which he claims, with a very sad face, that he is the most maligned and “picked on” MP, in the whole wide world, and it’s all because he’s “anti-establishment” and the “establishment” hate him and the media hound him, all because he’s making money.

All I can say is 🤬🤬🤬🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮 or I’d be banned from Gransnet for the rest of my life!

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD the government could have blocked this by-election, they chose not to.

In my opinion they are aiding and abetting this circus

Really? Can you even begin to imagine the outrage this would have released from Reform supporters, Reform MPs and Farage himself?

They (govt) were damned if they do, damned if they don’t!

MartavTaurus 20:57 Ooops sorry, hear addling my already addled brain!

MazieD ??

Heat! Heat nor hear! Grrrr

😆 My addling brain is now switched into France V Maroc. I think its a foregone conclusion, but like in politics, you never know!