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Clacton by-election

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MawsRosie Tue 07-Jul-26 23:14:25

In the immortal words of Brenda from Bristol, «Not another one!»

This is a wheeze, a dodge, a distraction, an expensive waste of time and an attempt to wriggle out of the morass he has got himself into,

MayBee70 Wed 08-Jul-26 20:55:38

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Really, I’m just amazed at how many people want to extend the 2-party roundabout that has brought 30 years of high taxes, low growth, eroding living standards, rising crime, rape gangs and the cover up of rape gangs, uncontrolled immigration, out of control welfare, an NHS and civil service that have slid from being world class institutions to embarrassments, a two tier justice system, wokeness run rampant and a society that is breaking down.

Do you lot really want 30 more years of that? Apparently so.

No wonder you get so much meagre joy out of a bloke with a bin on his head.

We’ve had thirty years of the gap between rich and poor getting bigger and bigger and the rich are supporting parties like Reform. As are the poor who mistakenly vote for them thinking they’re for the working man. As if.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 08-Jul-26 20:56:29

Who’s Sophia? 😂
I thought I’d typed ‘Has’.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 08-Jul-26 21:00:36

The working man is being hammered in the UK MayBee.
Starmer promised ‘Change’ and hasn’t even scratched the surface.

No wonder disillusioned people like what Farage is saying. Plus, he has an intelligent team. I like Zia Yusef very much. And Danny Kruger. For starters.

MayBee70 Wed 08-Jul-26 21:05:42

They’ve been hammered ever since Thatcher, with their means of employment being taken away from them and replaced with nothing. What good does reducing tax do if you haven’t got a job and with no hope of finding one? So what is Farage planning to do to help the working man?

Casdon Wed 08-Jul-26 21:09:49

Cossy

Chocolatelovinggran

Thank you, Casdon, I didn't know that Mr Fox had attempted to become Mayor.
Can one be a politician if never elected, I wonder?
Why do all of these groups start with "Re.."? Maybe we need the Reflux party?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

No, they’ll just keep repeating themselves!

How about a Rebel party!

Or a Renegades Party, where all the turncoat MPs who have jumped party ships could band together and spend their time slagging each other off instead of everybody else. It would implode quite quickly, but could last until mid August with a fair wind.

Cossy Wed 08-Jul-26 21:13:06

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Sophia’s Farage’s action turned UK politics into a farce?

I’m not sure UK politics could be turned into more of a farce.

An inept minority vote Labour government full of sleazy
fact blind politicians who start every statement with ‘the mess we inherited’ and somehow have a huge majority? A Conservative Party that refuses to accept its vast and serial mistakes. A Lib Dem party led by a Post Office incriminated clown. A Green Party that cares only about Palestine led by a council tax dodging psycho. And then there’s the Nut and Sultana party.

Farage seems positively inspirational compared to the other choices.

Not to me I’m afraid, still each to their own and it keeps life interesting.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 08-Jul-26 21:24:21

Farage and his team will do things differently MayBee. Shake things up. Cull the quangos. Increase our personal allowance from £12600. Bring in experts in their fields to tackle mismanagement by those who haven’t an igloo what they’re doing. I could go on but at the end of the day my witterings aren’t going to convince you so basically there’s no point.

We shall all have to agree to disagree and await our turns at a GE ballot box.

However, the natives are getting restless ….

vegansrock Wed 08-Jul-26 21:24:22

Don't forget the billionaire racists party.

greyfur Wed 08-Jul-26 21:35:39

Farage seems positively inspirational compared to the other choices

What is he inspiring?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 08-Jul-26 21:57:08

Me. For one.

fancythat Wed 08-Jul-26 22:10:23

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Really, I’m just amazed at how many people want to extend the 2-party roundabout that has brought 30 years of high taxes, low growth, eroding living standards, rising crime, rape gangs and the cover up of rape gangs, uncontrolled immigration, out of control welfare, an NHS and civil service that have slid from being world class institutions to embarrassments, a two tier justice system, wokeness run rampant and a society that is breaking down.

Do you lot really want 30 more years of that? Apparently so.

No wonder you get so much meagre joy out of a bloke with a bin on his head.

Some do on GN[not meaning the last sentence]

Not so much in real life I think want the 2 party thing to continue.
I think now it is broken, it is broken.

sundowngirl Wed 08-Jul-26 22:44:19

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Me. For one.

And me

vegansrock Thu 09-Jul-26 05:44:42

So the other parties ( there are more than 2 btw) aren't joining in Nigel’s farce and he didn't predict that in his huge look at me tantrum. Its hilarious. Of course Clacton was chosen by him for the demographic - everyone can see that. Nige is obviously not the Establishment ( who are they ?) - he’s the epitome of the working man - he's got about 13 jobs. 🤣

Casdon Thu 09-Jul-26 07:33:18

The real question now I think is whether Reform will thrive once Farage has gone, rather than whether he will lead them to an election victory.

Witzend Thu 09-Jul-26 07:39:59

Smileless2012

Trying not to think about Count Binface being the only one standing against Farage and winning!!!

Bring it on! Count B has some very sensible policies in his manifesto, including zero emissions from Piers Morgan, and the price of 99 Flake ice creams legally capped at 99p.

Galaxy Thu 09-Jul-26 07:40:50

Or it might be what will replace reform in that space. Nothing will have changed in a sense if Farage goes, the electorate remain the same and the issues remain the same.

Sunshinegirls Thu 09-Jul-26 08:04:11

I've voted Lab and Cons in the past but after this stitch up and witch hunt I'm determined to vote Reform next time. I agree with their policies and before anyone asks what are they just Google Reform Party policies. Do you remember the Trump witch hunt and how that ended with a thumping majority.
Why are the other parties are not standing errr perhaps they know they haven't got a chance in hell of winning just a thought.

MartavTaurus Thu 09-Jul-26 08:05:10

That is the big question. We don't know whether there can be a future for Reform without Farage.
Once he's dead in the water, that might well be it, but I do hark back again to Le Pen who resurfaces getting stronger each time.

MartavTaurus Thu 09-Jul-26 08:05:46

Casdon

The real question now I think is whether Reform will thrive once Farage has gone, rather than whether he will lead them to an election victory.

My reply to Casdon.

Sunshinegirls Thu 09-Jul-26 08:08:28

Also why I'm on my bandstand😀
Why when a party is in power Lab or Cons if they want to be voted in again why don't they just give the people what they asked for.

Cossy Thu 09-Jul-26 08:09:42

greyfur

*Farage seems positively inspirational compared to the other choices*

What is he inspiring?

He inspires me to 🤮🤮🤮

However, there’s no doubt he’s a good orator. However, if his MP performance is to be duplicated into PM performance, gawd help us all.

Cossy Thu 09-Jul-26 08:14:13

Sunshinegirls

Also why I'm on my bandstand😀
Why when a party is in power Lab or Cons if they want to be voted in again why don't they just give the people what they asked for.

If you don’t mind me saying this, that’s a very naive and simplistic view.

What have “the people asked for”?

We are all very different and all want different things from our government, but I guess we (might) all want a safe country, good public services and enough cash to pay our bills.

Other than that, clearly the left and right mainstream parties want entirely different things, How could any one government ever satisfy an entire country?

Magenta8 Thu 09-Jul-26 08:14:35

Come on Count Binface!

Primrose53 Thu 09-Jul-26 08:18:45

NF has been the most scrutinised, investigated person in Politics ever and nothing has ever stuck. I actually believe he has done nothing wrong. He is too smart to lie about this on national TV. In his statement I thought he explained himself very well and, to me, it made sense.

There is a Labour MP on TV talking about this just now and she is running him down and accusing him of stuff she cannot possibly know whether it’s true or not. They’re all spouting the same old lines “political stunt”. It’s nothing of the sort. If they thought they stood a chance at Clacton against NF they would be standing, no doubt about that.

Starmer the other day was all puffed up and spitting out the words that NF was wrapped up in sleaze. This is the man who has been forced to resign because of the sleaze he is involved with!

foxie48 Thu 09-Jul-26 08:21:25

I have a feeling that there is so much more to Reform's funding streams. There are lots of photos doing the rounds of Farage with Posh George and Nathan Gill, every one of them has links to Russia. Let's hope the media and other interested parties continue to dig into where their money comes from. Russians have been close to lots of MPs, not just Reform. I happen to know that the the late David Warburton (Conservative) also had links to Russians and so did Boris. I wonder how many others have taken Russian money