Police launch an investigation into Ann Widdecombe death

They say he was a depressed loner who never went out and lived like a hermit. But he was well enough to drive a car to Dartmoor and back all in the space of a day.

Somebody online claimed he was a brother of a Devon resident. Maybe there’s a link there somewhere. We will find out in due course. He will have to be charged soon.

If he claims the mental health route, should he even have been driving?

Well it’s a targeted attack of some description - who travels 100’s of miles to a remote part of the country with a stick for nothing?

I don’t think it’s about Reform.

Sorry wrong thread.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

How many times do the police have to say don't speculate. Anyone can read the posts on these threads and some of the speculation has become absurd.
The police have told us this crime is not political. Do people not have the patience to wait for further updates.

A woman has been brutally murdered and some people are trying to make this about Reform. Callous.

I’m not at all sure this is a politically motivated murder.

There’s a photo of the accused leaving ‘a property’ belonging to AW so the possibility is a disgruntled tenant or a relative in my opinion.

Time will tell of course.

Primrose53

Sunshinegirls

Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said the biggest threat to UK was not Russia or Iran but Reform UK.

Such irresponsible (blatantly absurd) demonisation of Nigel Farage’s party could stir up hatred in impressionable young men online,

Was dear Reformer Ann Widdecombe a victim of “online hate” spread by hysterical, poisonous progressives?

If so the self-righteous left has a lot to answer for. ALISON PEARSON Daily Telegraph on X

*I agree with her*

This is what I was referring to in my earlier post. That kind of drip, drip talk to a very isolated, lonely person could have very serious consequences.

Do you mean that it’s had an similar impact as on the young man last week who was jailed because he was plotting racially motivated murders of his colleagues at Asda? Should politicians stop saying what they think about their opponents because of the potential impact on the mindset of disturbed young people?

08:16*Primrose*53

I agree Primrose 👍

08:02*MayBee*70

My point exactly hatred from the Left directed at Reform and its supporters.

Sunshinegirls

Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said the biggest threat to UK was not Russia or Iran but Reform UK.

Such irresponsible (blatantly absurd) demonisation of Nigel Farage’s party could stir up hatred in impressionable young men online,

Was dear Reformer Ann Widdecombe a victim of “online hate” spread by hysterical, poisonous progressives?

If so the self-righteous left has a lot to answer for. ALISON PEARSON Daily Telegraph on X

*I agree with her*

This is what I was referring to in my earlier post. That kind of drip, drip talk to a very isolated, lonely person could have very serious consequences.

Sunshinegirls, the police, who have spoken to the suspect, day that this awful crime was not politically motivated.
Alison Pearson has never met this man, as far as I know, has decided that it might be.
I think, on this occasion, I would prefer to believe those who have been at the interviews of the accused.

It does feel as though some people actively want this to be a politically motivated murder. Is it because that would give a focus for their feelings of anger, rather than if it turns out to be a pathetic individual with a personal grudge?

Whoa, whoa, hold up a minute!

The police have told us this is not a politically motivated crime. I do agree that the online left progressives are particularly vociferous, demonise Farage, and distort the picture, and I do agree that the Reform Party has stirred up strong feelings of resentment. But it would appear that this aspect wasn't the driving force behind the murder in this case. We don't yet know the full story behind it.

Locally in Devon it has been said that the first man arrested is presumed to be the brother of the second man arrested, and that he is a tradesman - had he possibly worked at the house of Ann Widdecombe? We don't know. I'm not speculating here, just reporting.

If any party stirs up hatred it’s Reform. It’s what they do. Ed Davey is right.

Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said the biggest threat to UK was not Russia or Iran but Reform UK.

Such irresponsible (blatantly absurd) demonisation of Nigel Farage’s party could stir up hatred in impressionable young men online,

Was dear Reformer Ann Widdecombe a victim of “online hate” spread by hysterical, poisonous progressives?

If so the self-righteous left has a lot to answer for. ALISON PEARSON Daily Telegraph on X

I agree with her

I've a question.
Did the police bring him back down to Exeter for questioning, 5 hours away? When did the actual custody time start?

I've just seen the cctv of the man being held, as he (apparently) started his journey to Ann's village. 257 miles away.

Oreo

Rafichagran
Who are these Queen Bees you say? Well you tell us? It’s a total nonsense and figment of the imagination.
Each poster has their own opinion and there’s no bullying on here.

Just read your reply to me. Why should I tell you who the Queen bees are? I don't know myself. I stated that quite clearly. Bullying is not a figment of the imagination it goes on everywhere "Greyfur expressed a opinion and got jumped on. Another poster mentioned Queenbees.
That said this thread is about Ann, a woman I respected and enjoyed listening too.

Exactly.
When I read it, I dismissed it as a load of rubbish, and I can't still get my head around it.

I just can't understand any of this really. It is beyond horrible but also utterly bizarre.

Primrose53

Luckygirl3

That really does sound premedidated and targeted.

Yes it does. Why would anybody drive 270 miles taking a weapon with them without a motive? If he’s a loner who sits at home maybe on a computer or watching TV and hearing stuff like ”Reform are the greatest threat to the UK” then it may just tip him over the edge.

If he’s a loner who sits at home maybe on a computer or watching TV and hearing stuff like ”Reform are the greatest threat to the UK” then it may just tip him over the edge.

That is speculation.

If you wander around social media sites you will find that most political parties have been deemed to be the "greatest thread to the UK" by someone, at some point.

Perhaps the greatest threat comes from those who so easily get "tipped over the edge"?

The 28 year old is still being held by police, who say there is nothing to suggest it's politically motivated.

Galaxy

I don't think that's speculation I think it is empathy.

Exactly.

I have quietly hoped she was unaware and taken by surprise with no time to feel fear. That's not speculation, it's a human response to a horrible event, one where you hope the victim didn't suffer.

Galaxy

That has been mentioned upthread,the university where he works have released a statement that they are investigating his comments.

The person who posted this is transgender, who now identifies as female, but biologically male.