Police launch an investigation into Ann Widdecombe death

Sunshinegirls

Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said the biggest threat to UK was not Russia or Iran but Reform UK.

Such irresponsible (blatantly absurd) demonisation of Nigel Farage’s party could stir up hatred in impressionable young men online,

Was dear Reformer Ann Widdecombe a victim of “online hate” spread by hysterical, poisonous progressives?

If so the self-righteous left has a lot to answer for. ALISON PEARSON Daily Telegraph on X

*I agree with her*

Do you honestly believe comments like this are in any way helpful?

Political party leaders, all of them, have described other political parties in similar ways many times. Now is not the time for this either from you or the woman you quoted.

Are you suggesting the LibDem leader is somehow to blame for Anne Widdecombe’s murder?

Shame on you if you are!

Fallingstar

The police have repeatedly said they don’t believe the dreadful crime was politically motivated so let’s not make this a political football.
The police will update us in due course.

Well said. 👍👍👏👏

Casdon

It does feel as though some people actively want this to be a politically motivated murder. Is it because that would give a focus for their feelings of anger, rather than if it turns out to be a pathetic individual with a personal grudge?

It does indeed feel that way.

Will it make Reform supporters somehow feel better?

When Jo Cox and David Ammess were murdered, both serving MPs, both different political parties, the entire electorate, from all parties were outraged, shocked and saddened. No one attempted to use their appalling deaths politically.

If this death turns out to be politically motivated, most of us will no doubt feel the same way as they did when JC and DA were murdered and it won’t be in the least bit political.

Murder of anyone, for whatever reason, is shocking and appalling.

For it to happen to an elderly lady in her own home, the place we all should feel at our very safest, is unspeakable.

The police have repeatedly said they don’t believe the dreadful crime was politically motivated so let’s not make this a political football.
The police will update us in due course.

Unless the police have confirmed their own conclusions/info/intel I will not believe any other details from hearsay, speculation or other social media sites, aka gossip.

“Shinamae

Cossy
Oh please ladies. Can we just wait and see exactly what the police and coroner say.

Speculation is useful.

Yes, the situation itself is scary.

Let’s just not keep jumping on each others every word. It’s not healthy.

Please thanks

Goodnight one and all thanks
I think you should practice what you preach“

That’s exactly the “goady” type of comment I’ve sadly come to expect from some on here.

I haven’t speculated!

“Mental health route”. People with various my problems are drivers

Claiming the mh route is usually something the investigating officers pick up on

They say he was a depressed loner who never went out and lived like a hermit. But he was well enough to drive a car to Dartmoor and back all in the space of a day.

Somebody online claimed he was a brother of a Devon resident. Maybe there’s a link there somewhere. We will find out in due course. He will have to be charged soon.

If he claims the mental health route, should he even have been driving?

Well it’s a targeted attack of some description - who travels 100’s of miles to a remote part of the country with a stick for nothing?

I don’t think it’s about Reform.

Sorry wrong thread.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

How many times do the police have to say don't speculate. Anyone can read the posts on these threads and some of the speculation has become absurd.
The police have told us this crime is not political. Do people not have the patience to wait for further updates.

A woman has been brutally murdered and some people are trying to make this about Reform. Callous.

I’m not at all sure this is a politically motivated murder.

There’s a photo of the accused leaving ‘a property’ belonging to AW so the possibility is a disgruntled tenant or a relative in my opinion.

Time will tell of course.

Primrose53

Sunshinegirls

Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said the biggest threat to UK was not Russia or Iran but Reform UK.

Such irresponsible (blatantly absurd) demonisation of Nigel Farage’s party could stir up hatred in impressionable young men online,

Was dear Reformer Ann Widdecombe a victim of “online hate” spread by hysterical, poisonous progressives?

If so the self-righteous left has a lot to answer for. ALISON PEARSON Daily Telegraph on X

*I agree with her*

This is what I was referring to in my earlier post. That kind of drip, drip talk to a very isolated, lonely person could have very serious consequences.

Do you mean that it’s had an similar impact as on the young man last week who was jailed because he was plotting racially motivated murders of his colleagues at Asda? Should politicians stop saying what they think about their opponents because of the potential impact on the mindset of disturbed young people?

08:16*Primrose*53

I agree Primrose 👍

08:02*MayBee*70

My point exactly hatred from the Left directed at Reform and its supporters.

Sunshinegirls

Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said the biggest threat to UK was not Russia or Iran but Reform UK.

Such irresponsible (blatantly absurd) demonisation of Nigel Farage’s party could stir up hatred in impressionable young men online,

Was dear Reformer Ann Widdecombe a victim of “online hate” spread by hysterical, poisonous progressives?

If so the self-righteous left has a lot to answer for. ALISON PEARSON Daily Telegraph on X

*I agree with her*

This is what I was referring to in my earlier post. That kind of drip, drip talk to a very isolated, lonely person could have very serious consequences.

Sunshinegirls, the police, who have spoken to the suspect, day that this awful crime was not politically motivated.
Alison Pearson has never met this man, as far as I know, has decided that it might be.
I think, on this occasion, I would prefer to believe those who have been at the interviews of the accused.

It does feel as though some people actively want this to be a politically motivated murder. Is it because that would give a focus for their feelings of anger, rather than if it turns out to be a pathetic individual with a personal grudge?

Whoa, whoa, hold up a minute!

The police have told us this is not a politically motivated crime. I do agree that the online left progressives are particularly vociferous, demonise Farage, and distort the picture, and I do agree that the Reform Party has stirred up strong feelings of resentment. But it would appear that this aspect wasn't the driving force behind the murder in this case. We don't yet know the full story behind it.

Locally in Devon it has been said that the first man arrested is presumed to be the brother of the second man arrested, and that he is a tradesman - had he possibly worked at the house of Ann Widdecombe? We don't know. I'm not speculating here, just reporting.

If any party stirs up hatred it’s Reform. It’s what they do. Ed Davey is right.

Lib Dem leader Ed Davey said the biggest threat to UK was not Russia or Iran but Reform UK.

Such irresponsible (blatantly absurd) demonisation of Nigel Farage’s party could stir up hatred in impressionable young men online,

Was dear Reformer Ann Widdecombe a victim of “online hate” spread by hysterical, poisonous progressives?

If so the self-righteous left has a lot to answer for. ALISON PEARSON Daily Telegraph on X

I agree with her

I've a question.
Did the police bring him back down to Exeter for questioning, 5 hours away? When did the actual custody time start?

I've just seen the cctv of the man being held, as he (apparently) started his journey to Ann's village. 257 miles away.