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Keir’s farewell

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MawsRosie Wed 15-Jul-26 23:10:38

I was struck by the mutual respect, even affection in the tribute by Kemi Badenoch and the good humour in the exchanges between her and the Prime Minister.
The Commons at its best!

GrannyGravy13 Thu 16-Jul-26 18:39:43

Sir Kahn is now Lord Kahn

GrannyGravy13 Thu 16-Jul-26 18:28:48

In June 2023 Keir Starmer said if he ever became PM he would never dish out resignation honours

He has changed his mind, again…

WithNobsOnIt Thu 16-Jul-26 18:26:22

Bring on the Andy Burnham show.
The North West's Song and Dance Man. A bit more personality than Starmer.

Very shrewd man. But like most Politicians, he is just out for himself and should not be trusted.

You have been warned!

Gango Thu 16-Jul-26 18:22:51

At least lord north waged war to try to retain it. Not like Starmer and “mastermind” lammy who wanted to give away Chagos so Britain could lease it back. That’s what you would class as idiots at work

WithNobsOnIt Thu 16-Jul-26 18:18:27

Luckygirl3

Well they all know they could be next for the chop. It is a bear pit.

Dead right!

Gango Thu 16-Jul-26 18:14:52

Lip service!!

Gango Thu 16-Jul-26 18:13:48

Then you should know 5 years is the max. General election can be called anytime

Mamie Thu 16-Jul-26 17:28:04

MawsRosie

Mamie

Since Lord North has always been judged to be the worst Prime Minister ever (for losing America), I would be fascinated to read Gango's league table for the 54 who followed.

Don’t you think we were well out of it - in hindsight, no great loss.

It's an interesting question isn't it. Probably a good thing with hindsight, but a bit late to apologise to Lord North. It would need a definition of "worst" of course. In my lifetime that would be Cameron / May / Johnson for Brexit. My choice for the best PM would be Atlee.

MawsRosie Thu 16-Jul-26 17:11:14

Mamie

Since Lord North has always been judged to be the worst Prime Minister ever (for losing America), I would be fascinated to read Gango's league table for the 54 who followed.

Don’t you think we were well out of it - in hindsight, no great loss.

MawsRosie Thu 16-Jul-26 17:10:18

For me you spoilt your post when you decided to join in with ‘Rachel from accounts’. She has, not the most affluent, pensioner parents and I’m sure she loves them
It was something that needed doing and the press hyped it up dreadfully
Oh spare us the violins, hearts and flowers not the most affluent pensioner parents blah, blah, blah.
Rachel Reeves parents have nothing to do with anything. Yes they are retired teachers (TP quite generous actually, final salary pensions) also divorced - but so what?
Bottom line- cancelling the WFP at almost exactly the same time as awarding a very generous 15% multi year pay award to the train drivers which compound deal brought average train driver salaries to an estimated £69,000, spoke volumes about where her or HMG’s sympathies lay in 2024.

MayBee70 Thu 16-Jul-26 16:37:01

Mamie

I do think the whole thing would be better if Parliament was in a modern building with a semi-circular, tiered set-up. It is far too adverserial as it is. I know from friends that the building is very hard for people to work in and inadequate in so many ways.
I am sure it could have a future as a tourist attraction.

I've thought this for years. Parliament is an anachronism; an archaic pantomime. MP's play to the gallery and the tv audience. Needs dragging into the modern age imo.

Mamie Thu 16-Jul-26 16:29:33

Since Lord North has always been judged to be the worst Prime Minister ever (for losing America), I would be fascinated to read Gango's league table for the 54 who followed.

nahsma Thu 16-Jul-26 16:19:48

Gango

He has been the worst prime minister this country has ever had. For him to make out he has improved anything but doctors salaries and the benefits bill is quite frankly shocking.
Not even sure that the PM elect will be any better. Put the electorate in the driving seat and call for an election

One can only assume that Gango was in coma throughout Boris Johnson's tenure… and indeed that of Liz Truss.

LemonJam Thu 16-Jul-26 16:16:19

Judging by the response he got on both sides of the house clearly not the worst and most hated PM for years.

graciemabel Thu 16-Jul-26 16:14:21

Mr Starmer was delusionary and singing his own praises about what a good job he had done in the last 2 years. Worst and most hated PM for years but he actually believes his own publicity. The man was a shocking PM and RR a shocking chanceller!

jakuss Thu 16-Jul-26 16:04:58

Can you imagine Churchill telling his wife he loved her during a sitting of mps, we have gone soft

LemonJam Thu 16-Jul-26 15:25:33

Truss only lasted weeks and the country was in mourning most of that due to the Queen's death. A lettuce outlived her tenure as reported in the Daily Star- knowing her reign would be very short!

Truss's extremely short PM tenure may have slipped Gango's mind but her mortgage hike misery and market destabilisation legacy lived on. She must be in a prime position for worst PM ever....

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 16-Jul-26 15:17:37

Goodness, Gango - were you out of the country when Ms Truss was ( briefly) Prime Minister?

Betony Thu 16-Jul-26 15:07:52

Sorry, didn't mean knightood. Lord Hermer was of course awarded a peerage!

Betony Thu 16-Jul-26 15:06:16

I'm wondering if Lord Hermer will continue as Attorney General now. Kier got him a knighthood in order to award him the job via the House of Lords, but our AG didn't get his Chagos deal through before Kier left. I've read (either in Telegraph or Guardian - can't remember which) that Andy Burnham is pro the deal, so perhaps he'll keep Kier's mentor and good friend on to carry it out.

Mojack26 Thu 16-Jul-26 15:01:20

I agree

LemonJam Thu 16-Jul-26 14:48:17

Gango

He has been the worst prime minister this country has ever had. For him to make out he has improved anything but doctors salaries and the benefits bill is quite frankly shocking.
Not even sure that the PM elect will be any better. Put the electorate in the driving seat and call for an election

We had GE 2 years ago- next one 3 years hence!

LemonJam Thu 16-Jul-26 14:47:18

I'm sure KS will continue to do positive things once the dust settles. He is a honourable man and an analytical man and came late to politics. His legal career suited him well and charing commissions etc will suit him down to the ground

winterwhite Thu 16-Jul-26 14:34:44

I like to think that KS has a bright future ahead of him - after a short gap - chairing commissions and the like, to which he'd be much better suited than politics.

It would have been pretty shocking if KB had not shown personal kindness when his brother died and his house was attacked. Nothing to write home about there.

knspol Thu 16-Jul-26 14:32:28

Very pleasantly surprised to see/hear Kemi being so friendly and respectful towards Starmer and also to hear Starmer's comments re private conversations they had shared.
Perhaps the conservatives might begin to rise in popularity if this side of the leader was shown more often. Definitely beyond time to change the weekly bunfight at question time.