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Keir’s farewell

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MawsRosie Wed 15-Jul-26 23:10:38

I was struck by the mutual respect, even affection in the tribute by Kemi Badenoch and the good humour in the exchanges between her and the Prime Minister.
The Commons at its best!

Estrellita Thu 16-Jul-26 14:18:26

AGAA4

I am sorry to see Keir Starmer leave. The vultures circled and he had no chance against them.

I agree. He didn't stand a chance. He was a good man.

Gango Thu 16-Jul-26 14:18:06

He has been the worst prime minister this country has ever had. For him to make out he has improved anything but doctors salaries and the benefits bill is quite frankly shocking.
Not even sure that the PM elect will be any better. Put the electorate in the driving seat and call for an election

LemonJam Thu 16-Jul-26 14:11:46

Clearly you're not a fan orly. Your comments however can't take away the honour Macron bestowed on Starmer or ignore the respect and appreciation he was shown in the HoC yesterday - on both sides of the house.

mernice Thu 16-Jul-26 14:11:29

Padstow 18: For me you spoilt your post when you decided to join in with ‘Rachel from accounts’. She has, not the most affluent, pensioner parents and I’m sure she loves them.
It was something that needed doing and the press hyped it up dreadfully.

Babsbada Thu 16-Jul-26 14:09:48

Yes I agree that Kemi is doing a very creditable job and showing a relaxed, confident and emotionally intelligent style. So sorry to see Starmer go and think he has been treated shamelessly by his own party.
Not a tory voter but credit where its due.

orly Thu 16-Jul-26 13:47:01

If he was asking good as he and other said he was why was he forced to step down. It's always a case of false platitudes at such times. I say "Good riddance" for all his failings which outnumbered his succeses

Cossy Thu 16-Jul-26 13:43:14

Primrose53

Shabana gets the Chancellor job so where does that leave the migrant crisis? She was the only one doing anything about it.

Under guidance clearly from her PM, so let’s hope AB is not only a “fit” good strong pair of hands, but a good leader!

Cossy Thu 16-Jul-26 13:40:49

watermeadow

I felt so sorry for Keir Starmer, a good and decent man who was so unfit for his post and will be remembered as yet another failure at the top job.

I disagree, he was fit for his job and he leaves a legacy of good things.

What he didn’t have was a good strong team around him and anywhere near clear or loud enough PR/Comms teams.

Cossy Thu 16-Jul-26 13:39:06

MartavTaurus

I think Kemi often displays emotional intelligence which we don't usually see in politicians.
Yesterday she appeared to understand the feelings of KS and showed him personal warmth.

I too agree. A fine figure to lead the opposition. Whoever is in power we absolutely need strong opposition.

watermeadow Thu 16-Jul-26 13:13:50

I felt so sorry for Keir Starmer, a good and decent man who was so unfit for his post and will be remembered as yet another failure at the top job.

Basgetti Thu 16-Jul-26 13:07:53

Mamie

I do think the whole thing would be better if Parliament was in a modern building with a semi-circular, tiered set-up. It is far too adverserial as it is. I know from friends that the building is very hard for people to work in and inadequate in so many ways.
I am sure it could have a future as a tourist attraction.

I worked there in the early 90s and it was not fit for purpose then.

Mamie Thu 16-Jul-26 11:37:07

I do think the whole thing would be better if Parliament was in a modern building with a semi-circular, tiered set-up. It is far too adverserial as it is. I know from friends that the building is very hard for people to work in and inadequate in so many ways.
I am sure it could have a future as a tourist attraction.

Basgetti Thu 16-Jul-26 11:35:33

Padstow13

And it looks like Rachel Reeves is going with him.

Shabana Mahmood is heavily tipped to get the Chancellor job.

Personally, I'd settle for The Man In The Moon or anyone, really, who doesn't have a barely suppressed hatred of pensioners as demonstrated by Rachel From Accounts......

Oh for goodness’ sake! She is Chancellor. What have you achieved in public life?
I very much doubt that she hates pensioners.

Cossy Thu 16-Jul-26 10:27:40

Luckygirl3

Well they all know they could be next for the chop. It is a bear pit.

From the entire house.

AGAA4 Thu 16-Jul-26 10:15:57

Primrose I prefer to think they were showing respect to KS but you can think what you like of course.

Primrose53 Thu 16-Jul-26 10:04:25

Shabana gets the Chancellor job so where does that leave the migrant crisis? She was the only one doing anything about it.

Primrose53 Thu 16-Jul-26 10:03:09

AGAA4

I agree Cossy. They must understand how bad KS must be feeling and it would be heartless to clap for any other reason.

Only they know though. 😉

AGAA4 Thu 16-Jul-26 09:57:05

I agree Cossy. They must understand how bad KS must be feeling and it would be heartless to clap for any other reason.

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 16-Jul-26 09:53:36

I saw only dignity and mutual respect.
And yes, I agree with you, Ladyleftfieldlover, I dislike " Rachel from Accounts'.

Cossy Thu 16-Jul-26 09:51:42

Primrose FGT

Your comment P, made me laugh out loud! 🤣🤣

FGT

I think it was just a sign of respect, I’m sure there’s lots of people in any cabinet and opposition who actually quite like each other as people, but oppose the things they say and do in their day jobs.

Cossy Thu 16-Jul-26 09:48:30

I’ll be quite glad to see the back of RR and I’m a LP supporter.

However, I’d be equally glad to see the back of some of the “goady” and frankly “spiteful” comments on her about her.

Perhaps we should remember how well these people have actually done to get into these positions in the first place.

I don’t like Johnson, or Farage or lots of public servants, but I do have a grudging respect for them getting where they have in the first instance.

IMO, RR simply wasn’t a good chancellor.

Primrose53 Thu 16-Jul-26 09:14:34

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I just think so many of the LP had their knives out for KS tgat some of the back slapping and cheering seemed disingenuous really. Maybe suddenly some felt emotional because they felt a tad guilty?

Either that or they were clapping because he IS leaving.🤔

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 16-Jul-26 08:37:03

I just think so many of the LP had their knives out for KS tgat some of the back slapping and cheering seemed disingenuous really. Maybe suddenly some felt emotional because they felt a tad guilty?

MaizieD Thu 16-Jul-26 08:25:05

At one level I’m not sorry to see Starmer leave the post of PM (I assume he continues to be an MP?) because he was making Labour unelectable, but at an other level I feel sorry for him as a fundamentally well intentioned person who aimed too high.

Shabana Mahmood appalls me as much as Reeves did. Expect more bashing of the poor, more smarming to the finance industry and more austerity…

AGAA4 Thu 16-Jul-26 07:36:11

I am sorry to see Keir Starmer leave. The vultures circled and he had no chance against them.