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Gaza, I despair.

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greyfur Thu 16-Jul-26 21:00:19

What those people must be going through. Having had a few hot days gives us some understanding. To be without water and a home in the heat.The whole place is destroyed. And now Trump is waiting for Netanyahu to finish it off.

Smileless2012 Fri 21-Aug-26 07:57:55

Exterminating Gaza as a home for Palestinians may not be Israel's stated policy, but it's clearly Netanyahu's intention.

Maremia Fri 21-Aug-26 06:55:56

A new docu film 'American Doctors' which premiered at the Sundance Film Festival and was shown in Melbourne, tells the story of three medics trying to save lives with scarce resources in Gaza.
From news reports over the past few years, you may guess how the narrative goes.

David49 Thu 20-Aug-26 16:52:10

"He wont give up until there's no one left alive in Gaza David because that is and has always been his only goal."

I'm no supporter of Israel calling them evil is understandable, the population of Gaza is around 800,000 you think he wants to kill all of them.

Clearly he doesn't, he has stated that if Hamas surrenders their weapons he will withdraw, Hamas has refused. The stated policy of Hamas and other terrorists is to exterminate the state of Israel, while Palestinians support that policy the killing will continue.

I say this not because I support Israel but because I believe that's what will happen.

valdali Wed 19-Aug-26 19:54:42

I think evil is a strong word, but Netanyahu probably meets the high (low?) bar.

Wyllow3 Wed 19-Aug-26 19:54:01

It is. The recently well publicised murder of citizens in the West Bank, there's another "enquiry" due.

I'm also holding in the light those forced into the IDF, including suicides.

Who cannot kill to order.

Or - as is indeed possible, rogue elements - but they are not being disciplined.

And yes, I know of Hamas atrocities. Two wrongs dont make a right. But heck, is it surprising now that young people of have little to live for are still joining?

AGAA4 Wed 19-Aug-26 19:42:08

There will be a criminal investigation into the shooting of that little girl.
There are tragedies like this all through this war in Gaza.

1200 Palestinians have been killed since the ceasefire. 300 were children.
Netanyahu is not protecting his people. He is clearing Gaza for his own profit.
Israel is moving further into Gaza now making many families homeless.

The Netanyahu regime is evil.

Wyllow3 Wed 19-Aug-26 19:13:50

"There will be an investigation"
Really - why wait till the phone call is broadcast to the world. Why shoot a five year old dead in the first place or leave her to starve, as well and the ambulance men bodies found buried in the sand, another phone call was recorded

and no consequences.

Wyllow3 Wed 19-Aug-26 19:12:12

Oh, that poor sweet child, ringing for help with her family dead around her, a tank next to the car - then found dead - shot or starved - the current regime in Israel tried to hide it until the phone call came out.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crl7yjlpx2po

I am so, so angry. 🤬

Maremia Wed 19-Aug-26 19:09:20

There was nothing 'relaxed,' about a wall that separated people from the land their recent ancestors had worked.
Nothing 'relaxed' about being pushed into an area which was a fraction of what was rightfully, by treaty, and habit, their territory.

Smileless2012 Wed 19-Aug-26 18:22:37

So murdering a 5 year old girl surrounded by the bodies of her dead relatives in a car, whose telephone call saying how frightened she was and pleading for someone to come and get her is how Netanyahu prioritises protecting his country JeniferEccles?

He wont give up until there's no one left alive in Gaza David because that is and has always been his only goal.

David49 Wed 19-Aug-26 17:39:00

Maremia

It would appear from much evidence that Netanyahu's regime plan to destroy Gaza.
Netanyahu's policy on Gaza began long before that tragic event.

And Hamas gave him the perfect excuse!, until then the Gaza border was relaxed, Hamas couldn't have that, they expected global outrage and hundreds of hostages to stop Israel from destroying Gaza.

They were wrong, Israel wont give up until Hamas has gone whether Netenyahu is there or not, because Hamas vows to destroy Israel.

Maremia Wed 19-Aug-26 10:51:09

It would appear from much evidence that Netanyahu's regime plan to destroy Gaza.
Netanyahu's policy on Gaza began long before that tragic event.

JenniferEccles Wed 19-Aug-26 10:21:51

Netanyahu’s first priority is to protect his country and people from a terrorist regime on his doorstep whose sole aim appears to be the total elimination of all Israelis.

Hamas has refused to disarm until Netanyahu withdraws from Gaza.

If you were him, would you trust them to do that when all this started with the violent slaughter of innocent Israeli youngsters at a music festival ?

I certainly wouldn’t.

AGAA4 Wed 19-Aug-26 09:37:40

October election not far off now and hoping the evil Netanyahu regime will be finished.

foxie48 Wed 19-Aug-26 09:04:31

Netanyahu won't agree to a peace deal because he needs the war to stay in power and avoid getting kicked out at the election in late October. I

Whitewavemark2 Wed 19-Aug-26 08:21:41

Family including children sat at a seafront cafe, enjoying the sun.

All slaughtered by Israel yesterday.

Evil

Maremia Wed 19-Aug-26 08:01:22

Fair summary Samwan.

Samwam Tue 18-Aug-26 08:43:00

Isreal is rogue terrorist state it has been killing Palistinian civilians called mowing the lawn for decades and now bombing at least six other countries

It is an ethno zioist colonial state. It will never have peace if it will not agree to let the Palestinians have equal rights that's what Palestinians dearly want equality.

Jews are allowed in from many countries but the semic Palestinians are not allowed the right of return return, are refugees in their own land.

Isreal must learn to live at peace with its neighbours not to continue perpetual wars.

Countries including the UK must stop all arms, diplomacy and sanction Isreal.

Isreal's apartheid illegal occupation ethnic cleansing and genocide must stop.

Maremia Mon 17-Aug-26 21:54:08

From recent reports David, it was Israel who scuppered the negotiations.

Maremia Mon 17-Aug-26 21:53:05

So that makes it okay to continue killing Palestinians?
Just because they are not a sovereign nation?
Perhaps I misunderstand your comment David.

AGAA4 Mon 17-Aug-26 21:47:48

Security minister Ben-Gvir has called for nightly targeted eliminations of 30 or 40 people in Gaza.
1200 have been killed since the cease fire.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 17-Aug-26 21:19:39

We will have to disagree there.

David49 Mon 17-Aug-26 21:06:16

Whitewavemark2

David49

Hamas I despair, they refuse to disarm so nothing changes how much more suffering must Gaza suffer. Hamas started this war yet will not admit defeat.

Yes so sad, all Israel has to do is recognise that Gaza exists as a sovereign state, and Hamas will disarm, but it won’t so they won’t.

Gaza isnt a soveriegn and cant exist as an independant sovereign state, it can only exist with support of others, but nobody wants to support Palestinians, certainly not Egypt they don't want anything to do with Gaza.
In any case there won't be peace while Hamas are active.

valdali Mon 17-Aug-26 20:15:05

Netanyahu's also been publicly defying Trump lately; just when Trump could do with looking in control of something in his foreign policy, Netanyahu's treating his requests contempt.

Yes, some sort of sanctions, or at least being UK brave enough to propose in the UN that Israel face sanctions, would at least show that we don't condone the genocide.& although we no longer export arms to Israel, we still host & trade with Israeli arms manufacturers.

Maremia Mon 17-Aug-26 18:59:20

Not sure how happy Trump is with Netanyahu at the moment.
Why?
Remember the food truck sneaky transfer, because of an imminent threat.
Which thankfully never happened.
But now Trump looks like a coward, and his minions feel betrayed, and nasty folk are suggesting that Israel made a fool of him.
We of course won't ever discover the truth behind the threat, but that doesn't matter because with Trump, it's the optics.
And he was made to look ridiculous.