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Andy Burnham now officially Leader of Labour Party.

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Primrose53 Fri 17-Jul-26 13:24:38

Just saw a bit of his speech and sounds like he is going to make some big changes.

I still don’t get how he was only elected to Parliament a month ago but is going to become Prime Minister next week!

TakeThat7 Tue 21-Jul-26 20:11:20

Can't understand him bringing Angela Raynor back for housing You can break basic rules like she did and get another chance

Wyllow3 Mon 20-Jul-26 22:02:56

Listened to a bit. Hard toned and full of ssssssssssssssss ssssounds.

ronib Mon 20-Jul-26 19:38:11

So good to share common ground Casdon completely agree!!

Casdon Mon 20-Jul-26 19:19:45

She has a mouthful of wasps, I like Sky News generally, but I just can’t watch her.

ixion Mon 20-Jul-26 19:13:37

ixion

Nominating Sky's Beth Rigby for today's Endurance Award.
16.45 and still going strong since (my) breakfast.

Has Chris Mason fallen by the wayside?

Sorry Wyllow3.
My two previous comments (16.45 and 16.55) refer.

Wyllow3 Mon 20-Jul-26 19:08:51

Which Beth? (genuine don't know)

ixion Mon 20-Jul-26 19:05:28

And Beth is still there😳

Casdon Mon 20-Jul-26 19:02:30

I think that’s right Doodledog, I think you can tell from the way they announced their departure who walked, and who was not offered a role, although they wanted to stay in government.

Wyllow3 Mon 20-Jul-26 19:02:11

Whole story came out in the extended R4 world at one.

No he didn't eradicate rough sleepers in the long term but he made a very big difference for quite some time. People actually were given cards and a contact who had to find them a bed for the night.

But what happened was of course more people came to Manchester

Which is why it has to be a national plan of course.

Doodledog Mon 20-Jul-26 18:40:18

My guess is(and that's all it is) is that they'll be told there is not a role for them in the new cabinet. So not really a sacking, more that their contract won't b renewed.

Mollygo Mon 20-Jul-26 18:30:13

Sackings?
Did AB actually sack them or did they resign?
It seems to depend which source you read, so I’d love to hear from anyone who actually knows, and the source of that inside knowledge.

Mollygo Mon 20-Jul-26 18:21:37

I like his plan to end rough sleeping. It’s measurable and I’m hoping he will put a timeline for it happening.
Everyone who lives in a city, or town or any where it happens will be looking to see improvements .

Tuliptree Mon 20-Jul-26 17:42:50

Galaxy

To be fair his sackings are hopeful.

A mixed bag ie PK, LK - others as expected

Galaxy Mon 20-Jul-26 17:32:02

To be fair his sackings are hopeful.

Doodledog Mon 20-Jul-26 17:14:59

How can someone sort out rough sleeping in a city? There are no walls around Manchester, so as fast as he housed the existing rough sleepers there would be new ones coming in from outside.

It must be easier to do it on a National basis, particularly when you can make policies to support your initiatives. I'm looking on the bright side, anyway. I suspect that eradication is too high a goal, but making it a priority is a good thing, I'm sure.

Primrose53 Mon 20-Jul-26 17:02:29

AB Says he is going to make rough sleeping his priority. People were ringing in on the Matt Allwright show today (first time watching) saying he promised to do that in Manchester but he has never sorted it and there are still loads of rough sleepers in shop doorways.

ixion Mon 20-Jul-26 16:55:44

😂

Tuliptree Mon 20-Jul-26 16:47:21

ixion

Nominating Sky's Beth Rigby for today's Endurance Award.
16.45 and still going strong since (my) breakfast.

Has Chris Mason fallen by the wayside?

One can but hope

Iam64 Mon 20-Jul-26 16:47:08

Maybe our local Labour Party Facebook group seems to wish we weren’t in this position but relieved Andy is on place

ixion Mon 20-Jul-26 16:45:22

Nominating Sky's Beth Rigby for today's Endurance Award.
16.45 and still going strong since (my) breakfast.

Has Chris Mason fallen by the wayside?

Iam64 Mon 20-Jul-26 16:45:16

Andy Burnham had ending rough sleeping as an aim as our Mayor. Despite his best efforts. It’s increased over the past five years, as it has in the majority of cities and towns.

He’s in central not local government now, so hopefully in A better position to influence the policy decisions . I know I’m repetitive on this but we are living with the damage austerity caused to all our public services. People who become homeless usually have complex needs, mental health, drug/alcohol addiction and are often in a hard to reach category, even if we did have the services and housing to help them

Selling council homes while refusing to allow councils to use revenue raised to build more has been a disaster . Many separated fathers were allocated two bed flats so their children could stay over. The bedroom tax left many unable to pay the extra rent, losing their home as a result.

Public service was pushed onto its knees. Many current problems were inherited by Starmer’s government which is being blamed for this. I wish Andy Burnham well because that’s best for the country. People calling for a general election weren’t doing that as the tories replaced PMs frequently

MayBee70 Mon 20-Jul-26 16:36:04

Galaxy

Sorry but it is perfectly reasonable for people to express concerns about Burnhams ascent to power, it is not bitterness, it is a different perspective.
I think homelessness is a good first priority and it will be within his comfort zone.

I am on Facebook pages that are full of Labour members like me who are unhappy about Burnhams rise to power, especially as it’s obvious that it has been a long time in the planning and we had no say in the matter. I wonder how many non Labour voters voted for them in the election and will now never vote for them again. Because if they don’t they will depend on getting the Reform vote next time.

JaneJudge Mon 20-Jul-26 16:28:42

We are life long labour ish voters and we both voted for labour with a heavy heart.

I’m hoping Andy will be what the LP and their voters need but I’m a bit surprised by it all. Though it is the end of term..,

Doodledog Mon 20-Jul-26 16:26:12

Crumbly159

I got a notification from The Standard (fornerly the Evening Standard) which had picked up a rumour that the new PM may be considering reviewing the Personal Tax Allowance Threshold.

I hope so, but at this time there's rumours about everything.

So long as he reviews it upover (ie increasing the nil rate) I think that would be a good idea. It would save him from the complains when State Pensions become taxable (I think that date falls within the term of this government?) and wouldn't be seen as generational unfairness.

Doodledog Mon 20-Jul-26 16:23:26

Galaxy

Sorry but it is perfectly reasonable for people to express concerns about Burnhams ascent to power, it is not bitterness, it is a different perspective.
I think homelessness is a good first priority and it will be within his comfort zone.

Sorry, but I disagree.

IMO, which is what I am expressing, there is a difference between criticising what people do and sniping before they've done anything.

It was that sniping that brought down Starmer, at least in part, and I'm saying that I hope that doesn't happen again. If I'm honest that hope is partly because I would like to see a fairer Britain than we've had for the last ages, but also because the instability that comes from constant changes of leadership is playing into the hands of our enemies.

I could understand if changing leaders was unprecedented, but it has become the rule, rather than the exception of late, so I'm finding the objections now it's happening in the LP rather than the Tories rather hollow.