The OP seems more like an AIBU question and the little research I've done on such questions tells me that the majority of times the answer is "yes".
You can console yourself however, with the fact that many people chose the "short tempered" route
You are not alone.
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Am I just being impatient and mean? New PM
(236 Posts)I feel, even though I’m a LP supporter, quite irritated already with Andy Burnham.
Quite honestly, even for the poorest, £45 (on average) reduction in an entire year (offset by cap rises plus the fact that this isn’t necessarily going to last for an entire year) and re-capping bus fares at £2 per journey, is this really what people want and does it truly make a “cost of living” difference.
Why, oh why, couldn’t he have simply increased the tax threshold and benefitted all low paid workers and pensioners?
We all know personal income tax will need to rise. Why not bite the bullet and just raise the threshold, then tax income tax at a higher rate?
I know he’s said he’ll look again at tax thresholds later, but it was said in such a way that I feel it simply won’t be unfrozen.
He faces all the same problems as Starmer, yet the two years work Starmer has done to try and stabilise things like the economy will simply become part of Burham’s legacy.
Maybe I need an early night and a nice glass of something? 🍷🥃🍸🍹
Benefits and welfare should only be available to British citizens we need to look after our own people first.
The £2 bus fare doesn't start until 1st January 2027 and the VAT drop doesn't start until October and is only for 6 months. They are just trying to grab the headlines but I expect the £2 bus fare will be welcomed by a lot of people.
Maremia
In attempting to cut the welfare bill, who do you 'sacrifice'?
Adhd, autism, anxiety, depression?
Getting more people on public transport potentially means that it's possible to improve the service, reduce pollution, reduce wear on the roads, decrease the need for parking spaces in cities and towns etc. We have visited lots of cities in Europe where it's so quick, easy and cheap to travel that we don't use taxis or need to hire a car. So I'm hugely supportive of AB's decision although I don't have access to a bus service.
In attempting to cut the welfare bill, who do you 'sacrifice'?
These minor changes bring little financial benefit other than self-promotion for Burnham. Perhaps the cap on bus fares will help those struggling to get to work, but it is necessary to have buses in place first, and cities and urban conurbations are generally well equipped; rural areas need car transport to arrive and depart from work and education. It is obvious tax rises are planned, and will be targeted at those in work rather than the elusive 'wealthy.'
Burnham should be focusing on cutting the welfare bill and creating work opportunities, not making welfare comparable to a living wage, without any work required.
But I doubt he will.
Sorry - the above was in response to Primrose. I thought I had quoted, but obviously not.
I know. It happened when public transport was privatised. Previously well-used routes subsidised the quiet ones.
I would very much like to see transport back in public hands, so that everyone has access to clean, safe, reliable buses and trains. Who knows? If people give Burnham the chance they denied Starmer, it might happen.
I think he is trying to get the working class on his side and this is something he can do right at the start. How everything will pan out in the future is another matter.
Doodledog
It's not just the money, although that is obviously a good thing. It's that people may be able to get out more, visit friends and family etc, which will reduce loneliness and isolation, with an impact on mental health.
Transport is such a big issue - lack of access to it has economic impacts too, as if people can't travel to other towns they can't spend money (or earn it) other than very locally. It also allows people to follow interests and join groups that aren't on the doorstep.
Many parts of the country have very poor bus services. I know villages where there is just one bus a week. I also know of a couple of new developments of social housing which are out in the middle of nowhere with only a bus that passes through at 7am and returns about 5.30 to suit college students. No good for retired people or young parents with pre schoolers.
You're right, it was LizzieDrip.
… introduced by KS’s government.
The free bus fare for August is great for families though.
I think Cossy has a valid point. KS was going to implement the very same thing but decided against it. It's a mechanical process that is easy to implement and cost effective to the government. Because it isn't targeted so just giving it to all requires a lot less work for the government. However most better off people said we don't need the extra 14p a day for a few months Please give more to those most in need. And so the cabinet abandoned it. It should be targeted it's absurd handing it to those who openly say we don't need it. But yes it costs more to plan, target and identify those most in need. So it is a bit quick and gimmicky and do I think we are being treated as idiots, just so AB looks as though he's doing something before parliament recess.
snap?
Well locally it means people can for example get on a bus in the inner city and go for an outing in the lovely countryside near here for £2.
But mainly - well, I simply wasn't expecting any big finance announcement until a budget when they have had time to go through everything.
Cheaper fares on the buses might encourage those with access to bus routes to use the bus rather than the car. That's got to be good, surely?
This is no time at all.
New brooms sweep clean and I hope he does although I feel sorry for Starmer, think he is a decent man.
Amazon delivery was same day today, Mollynew, but I'm not proud that I used them. Needs must when the devil drives.
Oh dear, that was rather too many proverbs.
It's not just the money, although that is obviously a good thing. It's that people may be able to get out more, visit friends and family etc, which will reduce loneliness and isolation, with an impact on mental health.
Transport is such a big issue - lack of access to it has economic impacts too, as if people can't travel to other towns they can't spend money (or earn it) other than very locally. It also allows people to follow interests and join groups that aren't on the doorstep.
So I think it is window dressing but I also think it is very early days, so cossy you are both wrong and right
. I have had 2 glasses of wine if that helps.
Cossy I’m with you.
I know it’s not a popular view on GN but hey ho - we’re all entitled to our own opinion.
Personally, I have no time for AB; don’t trust him.
It means that I’m conflicted as I want a Labour government but the behaviour of this PLP has eroded my confidence in them. I’ve resigned my LP membership.
It might be Count Binface or Monster Raving Loonies for me at the next GE. On that note, I’ll join you in that glass of wine Cossy🍾🍷
The bus fare cap will help people who travel to work on the bus, and children whose parents have to pay bus fare for school.
£6 a day for a week, £30.
£4 a day for a week, £20.
Saving £40 a month.
Every little helps, surely?
Governing the country takes a bit longer than Amazon Next Day delivery or Deliveroo.
I think this shows what a real issue we have now in our relationship with politicians and politics.
Take us back say 30-40 years, and the population would never have expected instant gratification, understanding that time is needed to develop policy, time to produce legislation etc.
What has happened since apart from social media I can’t explain, but until we begin to behave with more maturity regarding to expectations, our politics is never going to have stability.
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